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Defending Our Brand

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Re: Defending Our Brand

#23

Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.

Turns out I have a Comodo cert expiring soon. Let's see if they do the right thing before I do...

Re: Defending Our Brand

#25

There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.

I see "Start Encrypt" as a capitalist answer to a competing product with (very) cheesy marketing, while what Comodo tries to do is purely malicious.

IMHO we can't put them in the same basket.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#26

There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.

I didn't believe when I received their email about it and bashing Let's Encrypt initiative. If StartSSL could do it, why they haven't done it years ago? Bunch of scumbags.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#27
Ah, the death throes of a big company that suddenly had its business model invalidated.

Well, not entirely; there are market niches that Let's Encrypt doesn't cover: org-validated and extended validation certs, wildcard certs, anyone who needs a cert that expires in years, ECDSA certs (for the time being)...

But theres no doubt that their revenue will be significantly cut, they'll lose shareholder value and need layoffs.

Their industry did it to themselves; a TLS cert company should have 5 engineers, 5 customer support people, and 2 managers, and should charge about 10% of what they do.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#28
post #16

There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.

That was my first idea too. I'm surprised LE didn't target them too.

While the naming might be similar, they are actually providing a free ssl cert, right? similar to LE.

If that is the case, then its a good thing (IMHO)

Re: Defending Our Brand

#29
post #2

Talk about an abuse of the trademark system.

Hm? This seems to be the perfect use of this "intellectual property"[1]. Comodo is trying to deceive people, Let's Encrypt is trying to prevent it by enforcing their trademarks. This is how it's supposed to work.

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[1] I don't like the term "intellectual property" mostly because people forget or misunderstand what it refers to and how the many various things called "intellectual property" work individually and differently from each other.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#30
post #16

There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.

That was my first idea too. I'm surprised LE didn't target them too.

For using the word 'Encrypt', or something else?
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