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Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Former Webpass employee here. Was one of the first software eng. hires. This is a great example of a bootstrapped business focused on customer experience that built up with no outside funding (that I know of). Congrats Charles & team.

Great work. I was a customer at 673 W Brannan in SF back in '07. Best residential internet ever.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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It's a brilliant business model: expand slowly based on demand only to dwelling units dense enough to be economically viable.

It definitely is and a bunch of small companies are doing an amazing job of it (Seattle has three such companies, for example). It is also one big reason why I really want municipal fiber. There are a lot more "houses or smaller and/or older apartment buildings" than there are new condo or high-end apartment buildings. It would be nice to have some competition in those dwellings alongside the cable company, usually w…

Municipal fiber wouldn't be "competition" in any meaningful sense of the term. The Chatanooga rollout cost about $5,000 per subscriber and was heavily supported by cross-subsidies from electricity ratepayers. I'd support municipal fiber as a complete government monopoly in places that have shown themselves capable of operating public infrastructure (e.g. NYC). But billing it as "competition" is disingenuous. You can't meaningfully "compete" with an entity that gets non-market revenue.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Huge fan of Webpass. 1 Gbps of IPv4/6 with great customer service for $55 a month. It can't be beat, if it's available to you. I hope this is a win for the Webpass employees, in the short and long term. Thanks for all the bits!

Is that a good deal in the US ? Wow, in France for $40 we got: - 12Gbps (100G Fiber at no additional cost in supported area) - Free landline call to a 100 countries and free cell calls to France - HD TV - and a media center with recording capabilities, a blue ray player, public FTP and network harddrive - for 3 more $, you get a cell phone line with 2 hours of communication and unlimited text, or for $20 unlimited ca…

12Gbps? Seriously?

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Is that a good deal in the US ? Wow, in France for $40 we got: - 12Gbps (100G Fiber at no additional cost in supported area) - Free landline call to a 100 countries and free cell calls to France - HD TV - and a media center with recording capabilities, a blue ray player, public FTP and network harddrive - for 3 more $, you get a cell phone line with 2 hours of communication and unlimited text, or for $20 unlimited ca…

Today I have 11Mbs internet in England. Before today it was the best I could get but today I was made up that my exchange just went live with 76Mbs fibre. You guys kinda rained on my parade :(

I get 50Mpbs here with Virgin Media - pretty happy about it :D

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Huge fan of Webpass. 1 Gbps of IPv4/6 with great customer service for $55 a month. It can't be beat, if it's available to you. I hope this is a win for the Webpass employees, in the short and long term. Thanks for all the bits!

Is that a good deal in the US ? Wow, in France for $40 we got: - 12Gbps (100G Fiber at no additional cost in supported area) - Free landline call to a 100 countries and free cell calls to France - HD TV - and a media center with recording capabilities, a blue ray player, public FTP and network harddrive - for 3 more $, you get a cell phone line with 2 hours of communication and unlimited text, or for $20 unlimited ca…

Do you have some proof of that? I know you can commonly get multi-gig connections in some countries, but France was next on that list that I know of.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely is and a bunch of small companies are doing an amazing job of it (Seattle has three such companies, for example). It is also one big reason why I really want municipal fiber. There are a lot more "houses or smaller and/or older apartment buildings" than there are new condo or high-end apartment buildings. It would be nice to have some competition in those dwellings alongside the cable company, usually w…

Municipal fiber wouldn't be "competition" in any meaningful sense of the term. The Chatanooga rollout cost about $5,000 per subscriber and was heavily supported by cross-subsidies from electricity ratepayers. I'd support municipal fiber as a complete government monopoly in places that have shown themselves capable of operating public infrastructure (e.g. NYC). But billing it as "competition" is disingenuous. You can'…

I have Verizon FiOS. Installation of it was subsidized by targeted tax breaks, use of government owned right of ways, and laws which substantially limited their liability for property damaged done during installation. I'm also pretty sure Verizon used funds gained from their other services to pay for the installation.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Municipal fiber wouldn't be "competition" in any meaningful sense of the term. The Chatanooga rollout cost about $5,000 per subscriber and was heavily supported by cross-subsidies from electricity ratepayers. I'd support municipal fiber as a complete government monopoly in places that have shown themselves capable of operating public infrastructure (e.g. NYC). But billing it as "competition" is disingenuous. You can'…

I have Verizon FiOS. Installation of it was subsidized by targeted tax breaks, use of government owned right of ways, and laws which substantially limited their liability for property damaged done during installation. I'm also pretty sure Verizon used funds gained from their other services to pay for the installation.

In most places FiOS deployment involves huge taxes, such as franchise fees and forced build-out into neighborhoods that will be unprofitable. (Tax breaks, to the extent they exist, are often carrots for the latter). Also, in many (most?) places Verizon pays the utility pole or conduit owner (usually the power company) for access to those rights of way. In Virginia, for example, you'll get a line-item on your bill for the right-of-way fee.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Price discrimination. Businesses tend to be more able to pay than home users.

if by discrimination you mean guarantees versus best-efforts. business class services, speaking generally, are less or not at all over subscribed while providing contractual guarantees to service performance and problem resolution. residential is best effort. they'll do their best to keep it up and give you the speeds you pay for, but if it doesn't work out that way sometimes, well, they're sorry about that.

Price discrimination is an economic concept - charging different prices for very similar products or services to get the value that each customer is willing to pay. That is often difficult and what normally happens is each customer is charged the same price.

Re: Google Fiber agrees to acquire Webpass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a good deal in the US ? Wow, in France for $40 we got: - 12Gbps (100G Fiber at no additional cost in supported area) - Free landline call to a 100 countries and free cell calls to France - HD TV - and a media center with recording capabilities, a blue ray player, public FTP and network harddrive - for 3 more $, you get a cell phone line with 2 hours of communication and unlimited text, or for $20 unlimited ca…

12Gbps? Seriously?

Has to be wrong, no end user in France is on 100Gbs without ridiculously prohibitive costs
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