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Lamborghini Is Forging Ahead with Forged Carbon Fiber

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Re: Lamborghini Is Forging Ahead with Forged Carbon Fiber

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Has Lamborghini ever made a car that had actual technical merit as a racecar? I'm general, supercars are vastly overpriced for what you get. You can easily crush most for a fraction of the price with a dedicated track car. But simultaneously, no supercars are remotely practical on the road, and in fact are not even fun to drive on the street because of speed limits. Some supercars have been a good investment, such as…

Well yeah but since Audi bought them they actually have decent guts as opposed to just being really pretty show ponies.

The Aventador was an R8 with a really good bodykit and there was NOTHING bad about that, it was the first Lambo in a long time that could actually take a corner at speed.

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> in fact are not even fun to drive on the street because of speed limits Well, race replica sportbikes are not fun to ride on the street for the same reason. However, get out of the city and seek the lesser-known winding roads up in the hills, and suddenly the bike is a ton of fun. I guess for some folks the supercar is the same (not for me, though - for me the fun ends as soon as you put me in a closed cage on 4 wh…

I've got a Honda cbr600, love it. But a top Ducati sport bike costs 40k, not 400k.

And most of the "regular" sportbikes are under $20k.

For the price of a Honda Civic you get the performance of a supercar - plus the experience of riding cage-free, which in itself is pretty awesome.

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Agreed. Lambos are status symbols. A carbon fiber supercar that impresses me (and is actually raced and wins ~ see last week's Le Mans) is the new Ford GT. You even have to submit a video interview because Ford wants actual enthusiasts, not "collectors", to purchase them from the limited run. https://www.ford.com/performance/gt/

One of my wealthier passengers was closing up the family's winter home in north Scottsdale. I asked my usual questions, and eventually he told me how the garage at the pickup location had one of the million-dollar Porsche 911's, and that their Ford GT was a much better car... In Colorado, the Hummer H1 was completely worthless in the winter. His 4wd suburban hybrid was great in the snow.

I wonder what 911 that was, the only million dollar ones that come to mind are either a rare racing version from the 70s or something like a 911GT1. As a daily driver a Ford GT would be way better than either, as a race car on a track I would argue otherwise.

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See that's my point: you can buy a track car for a fraction of the price that is objectively more bleeding edge. The track car has faster lap times, which is the reason one is buying the car. You can argue it's the fastest car that also has an air conditioning unit, I suppose. Hell, I saw someone running a '94 F1 open-wheel car around COTA last month. He said he purchased it for less than 100k. No supercars would com…

At least in the US, supercars are street legal (McLaren F1 being an exceptional exception) and the only way to do it is crash test. For every model you see on the street 3 had to be sacrificed.

Not if you import it under the Show and Display act, then you only need to meet emissions requirements. Supposedly Bill Gates helped get the act passed so he could import his Porsche 959.

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One of my wealthier passengers was closing up the family's winter home in north Scottsdale. I asked my usual questions, and eventually he told me how the garage at the pickup location had one of the million-dollar Porsche 911's, and that their Ford GT was a much better car... In Colorado, the Hummer H1 was completely worthless in the winter. His 4wd suburban hybrid was great in the snow.

I wonder what 911 that was, the only million dollar ones that come to mind are either a rare racing version from the 70s or something like a 911GT1. As a daily driver a Ford GT would be way better than either, as a race car on a track I would argue otherwise.

It might've been a 918, or a carrera GT. This was 2 or 3 years ago. I just remember that it was an "absurdly expensive" model, where a regular 911 was cheap in comparison.

Edit: The difference between the ford and the Porsche was that you felt every road crack in the Porsche, such that it was barely driveable.

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What's funny about supercars is you rarely see them on the track. It's the folks out there with their spec Miatas having all the fun. I've passed more 100k+ Vipers, M5s and Ferraris on track day in a first-gen 130bhp Miata than I can remember. Working on a Chump car ( http://www.chumpcar.com/ ) build with my brothers now. I've met people racing in that series who've owned every supercar imaginable. But when it's a be…

Lots of people have more money than skill. It happens. The very best part of driving the Miata is the frustrated point by from the Ferraris.

More petrolheads on HN than I expected!

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Do enthusiast car engines last longer than track car engines? Because I remember hearing that true track race car engines last a very short amount of time before they need work done. Maybe because they live at higher rpms?

The more aggressively tuned an engine is, the less time it runs before it needs a rebuild.

That's a whole other conversation just by itself. There are other factors that may even further reduce an engines life.

Re: Lamborghini Is Forging Ahead with Forged Carbon Fiber

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>> "Forged Composites (FC) carbon fiber looks more like marble or burl wood versus the traditional black woven fabric carbon fiber" Not that I'd ever buy a supercar, but personally think the look of FC looks cheap compared to the woven carbon fiber.

Looks like what Campagnolo has been doing to make their high-end equipment: http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360052668/campy-r...
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