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Re: How Cincinnati Salvaged the Nation’s Most Dangerous Neighborhood

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Post by dionidium » Wed, Jun 22, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

ececconi wrote: post #50

dionidium wrote: post #48

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That's an exaggeration. These "most dangerous" designations are pretty meaningless, anyway. Neighborhoods can be dangerous for many reasons, in many different ways, and for different people, at different times of day, dependent on context. All but the most careful comparisons are suspect.

You can say the same thing about almost any other kind of comparison that's not strictly numeric. Fact of the matter is, people make comparisons and they're valid for many reasons.

You can say the same thing about almost any other kind of comparison that's not strictly numeric.

That's an argument against making similar comparisons in other domains, too; you're supporting my claim, not contradicting it. People absolutely do make these comparisons, but I wouldn't point to what people happen to do as evidence that any random one of those things makes any sense.

I get it; we like these comparisons. They're fun. They're also -- at best -- misleading.

Re: How Cincinnati Salvaged the Nation’s Most Dangerous Neighborhood

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Post by aab0 » Wed, Jun 22, 2016, 7:47 PM UTC

logn wrote: post #11

aab0 wrote: post #7

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And execute the do-gooder liberal activists. EDIT: I am being literal. Read the article.

Ha. Never has executing liberal activists been part of the gentrification there. Is this the basis of your statement? > Wilbur Worthen, a mentally-ill 56-year-old whom Gray had befriended, burst into his office at the Drop Inn Center and shot him to death with a .357 magnum. The Drop Inn Center is a homeless shelter. Buddy Gray was shot by a person he had previously helped at the shelter.

> Is this the basis of your statement?

No, the basis of my statement is the lengthy sections of the article describing Gray's political power and obstructionism which was causing the district to decay and how his death lead to a vacuum in which the gentrification could happen. Describing it as execution was just gallows humor. They could also be bought off with grants.

Re: How Cincinnati Salvaged the Nation’s Most Dangerous Neighborhood

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Post by Myrmornis » Sun, Jun 26, 2016, 7:52 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #47

Myrmornis wrote: post #37

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Are you sure? Isn't notawacist critiquing the notion that the way to reduce particular types of crime is to eliminate from the local population a subset of society whose label is correlated with that crime? In fact it is animats whose post contained words that would usually be considered unacceptable in mainstream American discourse: > No more black people, and no more gunfire. notawacist goes on to point out that th…

Of course I'm not sure; certainty isn't possible with so little information. The information I do have suggests that Animats was most likely commenting in good faith and that you are most likely trolling. Please don't do that here.

I am not "trolling" -- what in my comment makes you disinclined to take it at face value? Thanks for in general doing a good job moderating but, with respect, I would like to point out that I find your comment here patronizing and disrespectful.