i just dont get it -- whats the problem with the old analog headphone jack? it works perfectly for me. wheres the benefit in ditching it?
Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
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Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#12John Gruber's response ( http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/headphone_jacks_are_the_ne... ): > Should the analog headphone jack remain on our devices forever? If you think so, you can stop reading. What's the advantage to removing the headphone jack? Is the jack some sort of bottleneck to sound quality that nobody noticed until now? I really don't see a benefit in removing the headphone jack, now or anytime in the for…
I think the argument that is made is that it's stopping phones becoming thinner - which looking at the size of the jack on my Nexus 5X, I can believe. However, personally, I'll live with a thicker phone if it means I can have a larger capacity battery, let alone a 3.5mm jack
From the same rant:
> As an aside, whatever the merits of this decision, it’s not about device thinness. The iPhone 6 is the thinnest iPhone to date at 6.9mm. The iPod Touch has a headphone jack and is just 6.1mm thick. The iPod Nano: 5.4mm. The analog headphone jack is more costly in terms of depth than thickness.
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#13I don't think abandoning the headphone jack is a bad idea.
I think abandoning it for lightning is a bad idea.
Is apple so desperate for hardware money that there is not a single "open" connector on the iPhone?
Why Lightning as opposed to USB-C? Why make it so that people need a completely different set of headphones just for apple devices? (Bluetooth not withstanding)
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#14You aren't forced to buy a new iPhone, better yet the one you have probably doesn't really need to be upgraded at all. Apple will understand you're displeasure if you vote w/your wallet; they won't care about your displeasure if you tweet them or complain in the comments section.
I understand your point: if sales go up then it matters fuck all how many people complain (see: Facebook redesigns and growth from 2004-2011).
However, ideally you will both not purchase and complain publicly, preferably with well-reasoned arguments. Not only will this potentially help dissuade far more people from purchasing a new iPhone than your meager 1-person boycott will, but you can bet there are factions inside Apple that fought tooth and nail against this change, and a large amount of press supporting their opinion helps them make the case internally.
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#15i just dont get it -- whats the problem with the old analog headphone jack? it works perfectly for me. wheres the benefit in ditching it?
Apple's reasoning is that the problem with the old analog headphone jack is that it won't work with all of the new lightning-based headphones that will be coming out soon.
/sarcasm
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#16John Gruber's response ( http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/headphone_jacks_are_the_ne... ): > Should the analog headphone jack remain on our devices forever? If you think so, you can stop reading. What's the advantage to removing the headphone jack? Is the jack some sort of bottleneck to sound quality that nobody noticed until now? I really don't see a benefit in removing the headphone jack, now or anytime in the for…
Comparing the 3.5 mm audio jack to the floppy drive is ridiculous. The jack has become far, far, more ubiquitous than the floppy drive. Additionally, the things that use the jack are often of higher quality and not disposible like a floppy disk was. And this ignores the fact that the floppy disk/drive was technologically usurped by other removable storage formats.
The 3.5 mm jack still delivers the absolute best sound quality compared to the other options available on a smart phone.
Most, if not all, of the other solutions will be a step backward.
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#17John Gruber's response ( http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/headphone_jacks_are_the_ne... ): > Should the analog headphone jack remain on our devices forever? If you think so, you can stop reading. What's the advantage to removing the headphone jack? Is the jack some sort of bottleneck to sound quality that nobody noticed until now? I really don't see a benefit in removing the headphone jack, now or anytime in the for…
I think the argument that is made is that it's stopping phones becoming thinner - which looking at the size of the jack on my Nexus 5X, I can believe. However, personally, I'll live with a thicker phone if it means I can have a larger capacity battery, let alone a 3.5mm jack
The whole discussion is based on the dishonest claim that it's either 3.5mm or no analog.
We already have a standardized 2.5mm jack to replace the 3.5mm one in space-constrained environments (just like 6.35mm is still around for hifi setups).
Why is everyone pretending we need to ditch analog audio completely for smaller phones when we can just start using 2.5mm (again!)?
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#18John Gruber's response ( http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/headphone_jacks_are_the_ne... ): > Should the analog headphone jack remain on our devices forever? If you think so, you can stop reading. What's the advantage to removing the headphone jack? Is the jack some sort of bottleneck to sound quality that nobody noticed until now? I really don't see a benefit in removing the headphone jack, now or anytime in the for…
It's too big (at least according to those "slim" worshiping designers).
Then use the standardized 2.5mm analog audio plug that was designed for space-constrained environments.
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#19I'm just curious about how I'd charge my iPhone using a portable power bank while on the go if my Lightning port is occupied with my earbuds. Getting those extra battery pack cases is a nuisance, unnecessarily increases the phone's size. A portable power bank is much more flexible. Plug it in when I need it, keep it in my pocket if I'm on the go.
I know that wireless charging is on the table, but how would that work as I'm walking on the sidewalk? Would it stay flush with the iPhone via a case? If so, doesn't that go back to how a battery pack case makes the phone unnecessarily large? Or do I put it on the phone only when necessary? If I put it on the phone only when necessary, do I take my preferred case off whenever I need to charge on the go?
Or do I buy some sort of Lightning Y-cable to make this work?
This is the one question I want answered.
Or maybe Bluetooth earphones will have good enough quality and battery life for none of it to matter. Who knows?
Re: Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid
#20You aren't forced to buy a new iPhone, better yet the one you have probably doesn't really need to be upgraded at all. Apple will understand you're displeasure if you vote w/your wallet; they won't care about your displeasure if you tweet them or complain in the comments section.
I understand your point: if sales go up then it matters fuck all how many people complain (see: Facebook redesigns and growth from 2004-2011). However, ideally you will both not purchase and complain publicly, preferably with well-reasoned arguments. Not only will this potentially help dissuade far more people from purchasing a new iPhone than your meager 1-person boycott will, but you can bet there are factions insi…
I take a similar tack when upset with a retail establishment. Rather than angrily claiming "I'm never coming back! And I'm telling my friends to never come here again!" which they've all heard ten million times, I try this:
"I've been a customer for years, and this experience disappoints me. I've come to expect more from you folks. I hope in future we can come to a better conclusion. Is there somebody I can talk to about my concerns?"
They (sometimes) look alarmed/turn white, and often get a manager. Of course this is just retail outlets, not manufacturers.