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Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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Imgur has a community. Tons of users that goes directly there to see funny images and GIFs. Yes, Google can create a infinite scalable image hosting overnight, but creating a community is a lot harder.

Creating communities is hard, but Google wants a unified 'Google' community, not multiple disparate ones -- just look at how they handled YouTube. Even if you throw in some machine learning to figure out if the user's looking at memes or gifs or porn, I can't imagine the marginal value of that data being of use to Google. It's essentially unmonetizable, which is why most image hosts disappear after a few years. Imgur…

Especially as Imgur is already giving Google that information for free (from the Imgur source):

    
        Imgur.Util.getGoogleTracker();
        __ga('send', 'pageview');
    

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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I guess traffic gets a lot cheaper beyond a certain volume. I suspect it's dollars/TB to cents/TB? So they can cut prices for their offerings and have more revenue and growth due to paying less for the traffic. Having these volumes of data also allows them to approach potential clients with some solid data (e.g. we serve 1/5 of image clicks on the net every day and below 20ms response time... I have no data, just spe…

So I should start a burger joint and give away food for free to prove I can handle the throughout and my cost will be essentially zero?

Burgers are not bits.

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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It's really unfortunate that Imgur took such a turn for the worse. Originally it seemed like Imgur was a benevolent gift to Reddit users... a clean, simple, easy to use image hosting service that everyone could use for free. I guess it was too good to be true, because now it's tricky to link to a direct image (though not impossible), and the standard landing page is filled with unnecessary clutter. As an aside: if yo…

What really killed them was the GIF explosion. Average image size remains largely static and bandwidth and storage costs steadily decline so if you get your timing exactly right, you can hit that sweet spot where your CPM declines slower than your hosting costs and provide an increasingly profitable business. However, GIFs completely upended that calculation by increasing the average file size by an order of magnitud…

> I'm surprised Google never just bought imgur

Sex. Corporations tend to keep faaar away from everything related to porn, and a fair share of imgur images is nsfw content. Cleaning it up would be more trouble than it's worth.

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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I guess traffic gets a lot cheaper beyond a certain volume. I suspect it's dollars/TB to cents/TB? So they can cut prices for their offerings and have more revenue and growth due to paying less for the traffic. Having these volumes of data also allows them to approach potential clients with some solid data (e.g. we serve 1/5 of image clicks on the net every day and below 20ms response time... I have no data, just spe…

So I should start a burger joint and give away food for free to prove I can handle the throughout and my cost will be essentially zero?

If you have robots in the entire supply chain down to the production of the fertiliser for the plants without any humans then why the hell not?

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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I was wondering about what you said about linking to a direct image being tricky. As far as I can see, you can put the link to imgur (like http://imgur.com/gKt0Owa ) or directly to the image ( http://i.imgur.com/gKt0Owa.jpg ) and both (as well as the html, bbcode and markdown versions) appear directly in the image page.

It's tricky because your direct image link redirects me to the full page with ads, and it's not obvious to you. Try hard refreshing your image link. (I'm pretty sure the way it works is: it shows the image for certain referrers, and when you load the "full" page it requests the image with a referrer of imgur. That way you get the image, and then subsequent requests to the image are served from your browser cache so t…

Weird... I actually tried with a couple of different browsers (FF, Chrome and Safari) to check that it wasn't me logged in or something like that. Could it be ip-based, as I did all my tests with the same computer? Hmm...

Anyway, thanks for expanding on it; I've shared a few images through imgur and never had this issue (maybe it was before this change, or maybe the people receiving them never complained), so I was a bit puzzled by your comment.

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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But most of imgur's audience is not even seeing the site or is just looking at a quick picture and then going back to reddit or some other referring site.

I think you're mistaken here. As a reddit user you might think that, but there's actually a fully functional imgur community that votes on images independently from reddit and comments on them on imgur independent from reddit. Just scroll down on this page: http://imgur.com/gallery/tWWxi4D Voting options, and lots and lots of comments.

wow, that's an awful UI. Reminds me of the gloomy days of 9gag, circa 2010.

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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What really killed them was the GIF explosion. Average image size remains largely static and bandwidth and storage costs steadily decline so if you get your timing exactly right, you can hit that sweet spot where your CPM declines slower than your hosting costs and provide an increasingly profitable business. However, GIFs completely upended that calculation by increasing the average file size by an order of magnitud…

> I'm surprised Google never just bought imgur Sex. Corporations tend to keep faaar away from everything related to porn, and a fair share of imgur images is nsfw content. Cleaning it up would be more trouble than it's worth.

> Corporations tend to keep faaar away from everything related to porn

Yahoo's purchase of Tumblr and many bids for SnapChat seem to be evidence to the contrary. Cable companies and premium channels also make a lot off of porn.

Porn is fine for large companies as long as they have some cover (the product isn't just porn).

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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Eh, they're serving GIFs up as video and low-res, short compressed videos aren't actually all that big these days.

I've come across animated GIFs that when downloaded in GIF form are 100+MB. That's slightly different than a 100KB jpeg.

Yes but you are supposedly not serving the GIF but the mp4 video.

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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Yes it can be dismissed. There's a link that says "No thanks", doesn't it appear for you?

No - up to date iOS on iPhone 5s.

That's weird. I have a 5s as well. And it appears.

https://i.imgur.com/ZwRMtJC.png

Maybe it's your ad blocker?

Re: Image Hosting on Reddit

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No, because Wikipedia citation links have rel="nofollow".

It would be irresponsible for a machine learning black box like Google's indexer to give much importance to rel="nofollow". Think about it. Imagine you're building the perfect internet indexer. In an effort to generalize your model, you anticipate a scenario where a nofollow link shows up consistently on various Wikipedia pages where it persists for a long time. What are you going to do? Ignore the link because, sorr…

Maybe you'd realise that if you do follow nofollows, people will eventually realise and ruin all of your nofollow links with spam.
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