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"In the process, it has earned the ire of longtime residents and homeless advocates, who say their desires, suggestions and dreams for the neighborhood—until recently 80 percent African-American—are seldom consulted and rarely implemented." Yup. "Urban renewal means Negro removal", as James Baldwin once said. Silicon Valley did this in Whiskey Gulch, the small piece of East Palo Alto that's west of 101. East Palo Alt…
" From 2010 to 2014 it went from about 60 percent black to two-thirds white, while the still-undeveloped section north of Liberty Street has remained over 80 percent African-American."
Is the neighborhood becoming more white because white people are moving there? Or because black people are leaving? It sounds like the population dropped dramatically with the crime.
If it's because there were 4000 blacks and 1000 whites and now there are 4000 blacks and 4000 whites, that doesn't sound like a problem to me.
"In the process, it has earned the ire of longtime residents and homeless advocates, who say their desires, suggestions and dreams for the neighborhood—until recently 80 percent African-American—are seldom consulted and rarely implemented." Yup. "Urban renewal means Negro removal", as James Baldwin once said. Silicon Valley did this in Whiskey Gulch, the small piece of East Palo Alto that's west of 101. East Palo Alt…
I have no idea why black people or other minorities might feel like they are unwelcome around the hackers of Hacker News when they post comments like that.
Oh well, pardon our meritocracy!
"In the process, it has earned the ire of longtime residents and homeless advocates, who say their desires, suggestions and dreams for the neighborhood—until recently 80 percent African-American—are seldom consulted and rarely implemented." Yup. "Urban renewal means Negro removal", as James Baldwin once said. Silicon Valley did this in Whiskey Gulch, the small piece of East Palo Alto that's west of 101. East Palo Alt…
Just playing devils advocate here: do you think the solution would have been different if it had been white people shooting each other?
In the context of the article I make the recommendation with some reservations. You can spin it as poverty voyeurism or gentrification if that's your thing, but it also offers a glimpse into how things were when the area was a vibrant community. It also offers a peek into historical infrastructure (well, insofar as you can consider the aging and moving of beer infrastructure) when it was still more economic to chill beer with cold river water than electricity.
Not affiliated, but I did take the tour a couple years ago.
> No more black people, and no more gunfire. Hey! I think you're on to something here! If we get rid of a race that predominately commits a crime then that crime's rate will decrease. Now seeing that most white-collar crime is committed by white people, most school shooters are white people, and most serial killers are white people, we could cleanse our cities of these crimes if we cleansed our cities of white people…
Animats' comment was provocative but within the range of substantive conversation. It contained specific information and wasn't purely ideological. This comment, on the other hand, is just trolling. You can't comment like that here, and since this is a throwaway account, I'm banning it. Please don't make throwaway accounts to break the site rules with. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i…
> No more black people, and no more gunfire.
notawacist goes on to point out that there are crimes of which white people are the predominant perpetrators.
Note also that notawacist's reply https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11950969 to the inflammatory sentence ostensibly identifies notawacist as holding a standard anti-racism pro-diversity position:
> I have no idea why black people or other minorities might feel like they are unwelcome around the hackers of Hacker News when they post comments like that.
This part confuses me: " From 2010 to 2014 it went from about 60 percent black to two-thirds white, while the still-undeveloped section north of Liberty Street has remained over 80 percent African-American." Is the neighborhood becoming more white because white people are moving there? Or because black people are leaving? It sounds like the population dropped dramatically with the crime. If it's because there were 40…
3CDC and Cincinnati are creating a vibrant neighborhood for affluent whites. Just recently has the population started to increase for the white population. As the whole the neighborhood is declining in population and becoming much more affluent and much less dense.
Graph with population numbers. http://infogr.am/o65l3dVQjEXPYKWO
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Animats' comment was provocative but within the range of substantive conversation. It contained specific information and wasn't purely ideological. This comment, on the other hand, is just trolling. You can't comment like that here, and since this is a throwaway account, I'm banning it. Please don't make throwaway accounts to break the site rules with. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i…
Are you sure? Isn't notawacist critiquing the notion that the way to reduce particular types of crime is to eliminate from the local population a subset of society whose label is correlated with that crime? In fact it is animats whose post contained words that would usually be considered unacceptable in mainstream American discourse: > No more black people, and no more gunfire. notawacist goes on to point out that th…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you sure? Isn't notawacist critiquing the notion that the way to reduce particular types of crime is to eliminate from the local population a subset of society whose label is correlated with that crime? In fact it is animats whose post contained words that would usually be considered unacceptable in mainstream American discourse: > No more black people, and no more gunfire. notawacist goes on to point out that th…
I do not believe the sentence "No more black people, and no more gunfire." indicated removing certain types of people was a solution. Just that a company invested money in an area and now there is less blacks and less gun fire. That can be a pure statement of fact.