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Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by fokinsean »

ergothus wrote: post #26

I've been a vegetarian for the last decade and change, and I simultaneously think that finding a cheaper, appealing alternative to meat is both a fantastic opportunity for the world and a really difficult thing. I used to love meat when I was a meat-eater, and I'm a fairly picky eater that dislikes many vegetable options. (Green peppers are nasty and food-destroying in my opinion, which immediately removes over half…

I'm a meat eater, and I think Morningstar is the shit. My favorite thing to whip up is the grillers prime, a fried egg, and sriracha.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by wil421 »

wavefunction wrote: post #35
ergothus wrote: post #26

I've been a vegetarian for the last decade and change, and I simultaneously think that finding a cheaper, appealing alternative to meat is both a fantastic opportunity for the world and a really difficult thing. I used to love meat when I was a meat-eater, and I'm a fairly picky eater that dislikes many vegetable options. (Green peppers are nasty and food-destroying in my opinion, which immediately removes over half…

When I visit India and eat vegetarian food properly prepared by a culture that has refined vegetarian cuisine beyond "fake meat", I don't miss meat at all. Much of Western food is only expected to be an accompaniment to a meat dish, which is why you can't just cut meat out and eat the vegetable dishes you're used to when you're eating meat as well, imnsho.

Not a vegetarian but I do go out with many Indian colleagues who are vegetarian and have family members or friends who dont eat meat.

I do agree with the assumption that western vegetarians tend to want meat replacements. The biggest difference for me was seeing how a lot of Indian cuisine is actually unhealthy. Most everything is fried in oil or has so much clarified butter its unhealthy. The Indian diet (at least the people in my office) seems more unhealthy vs the western vegetarian diet and several people in my office have had heart attacks.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by pillowkusis »

I've tried the beyond burger[0], which is similar in that they're both trying to be meatless meat burgers. I don't know if they taste anything alike.

The beyond burger was interesting. It was the closest to a meat patty I've eaten, of all the beef substitutes. It cooks and looks like a beef burger. However, the taste and texture is only reminiscent of meat. Against, it's the closest I've seen anyone get. But it's not a beef burger, and it's worse for inviting the comparison. I'll stick to bean burgers for now. I hope this impossible burger is better.

[0]: http://beyondmeat.com/products/view/beyond-burger

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by skosch »

MrJagil wrote: post #86
moskie wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on the context, texture vegetable protein (TVP for short) is an option for things like pasta sauce that you want to add a ground beef alternative too. I'm sure there's many other ways to use it, but that's one we regularly use in our house. http://www.bobsredmill.com/tvp-textured-veg-protein.html

A really good tip is anchovies and black olives, grounded. It honestly approaches ground beef in pasta sauce (Especially the cheap, student-living kind).

aka alla puttanesca :)

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by radlad »

bunderbunder wrote: post #33
colanderman wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The product would not be marketable to vegans if real cow blood were used. (Granted, the article says the company is not marketing to vegans.)

I'm guessing the real reason the company's not marketing to vegans because there's essentially zero need to market to vegans, and good reasons not to. Vegans are a relatively night-knit lot. As long as it contains no animal products and tastes good, all they'll need to do is pass out a few free samples at a single vegan meetup and then sit back and wait. Every strict vegetarian on the continent will be talking about…

Great points. There is a restaurant in my city that serves exclusively vegan food, from lunch and dinner entrees to bakery sweets.

It's actually one of my favorite restaurants (despite not being vegan) but it's very difficult to convince my non-vegetarian/non-vegan friends to go try it with me.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by matt4077 »

delecti wrote: post #89
ergothus wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a huge fan of Indian food. (Because it's tasty, AND because they are one of the few foreign countries that uses the same definition of "vegetarian" that I do). That said, I actually have a fairly limited range there too: if you don't like yogurt, dill, bell peppers, cucumbers, or okra, a lot gets cut out. That's on me an my tastes, not the Indian food, but it's still a reality I have to deal with.

> the same definition of "vegetarian" that I do Can you elaborate?

Well, in Africa chicken isn't regarded as meat, to give one example from my own experience.

In western countries, there's some ambiguity around eggs, fish, and possibly lard but only as far as vegetarians can't all agree on those either.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by jlarocco »

ergothus wrote: post #26

I've been a vegetarian for the last decade and change, and I simultaneously think that finding a cheaper, appealing alternative to meat is both a fantastic opportunity for the world and a really difficult thing. I used to love meat when I was a meat-eater, and I'm a fairly picky eater that dislikes many vegetable options. (Green peppers are nasty and food-destroying in my opinion, which immediately removes over half…

I spent several years as a vegetarian, and then a few as a vegan, and I wouldn't/won't touch any of those products, either. I've tried them, and they're gross. They don't taste like or feel like meat.

There are enough delicious vegetarian and vegan recipes that it makes very little sense to go vegetarian and then eat processed imitation meat. I found being vegan significantly easier when I just looked for recipes that happened to be vegan.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by nightski »

bradbeattie wrote: post #68
ergothus wrote: post #26

I've been a vegetarian for the last decade and change, and I simultaneously think that finding a cheaper, appealing alternative to meat is both a fantastic opportunity for the world and a really difficult thing. I used to love meat when I was a meat-eater, and I'm a fairly picky eater that dislikes many vegetable options. (Green peppers are nasty and food-destroying in my opinion, which immediately removes over half…

I'm in the same camp as you. Vegetarian since 1989, vegan since 1999. I can certainly say that the quality of fake meats has drastically improved in the past 10 years (see https://gardein.com/ , http://fieldroast.com/ , and http://beyondmeat.com/ as examples), but the stigma surrounding them persists. Short anecdote: There's a donut shop in my town that sold vegan and regular donuts in adjacent but separate displays.…

It's not just taste. These alternatives are loaded with carbs and just aren't practical for a low carb diet. This is coming from someone who eats a ton of fiber loaded vegetables. It's really hard to find a reasonable substitute for meat proteins that is as efficient and delicious as meat. Protein is not a huge portion of my diet, but it is very important.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Post by nicklo »

ergothus wrote: post #26

I've been a vegetarian for the last decade and change, and I simultaneously think that finding a cheaper, appealing alternative to meat is both a fantastic opportunity for the world and a really difficult thing. I used to love meat when I was a meat-eater, and I'm a fairly picky eater that dislikes many vegetable options. (Green peppers are nasty and food-destroying in my opinion, which immediately removes over half…

Do you not find it unethical to serve your in-laws fake meat without informing them?

Wouldn't you be upset if your in-laws served you seitan that was actually chicken?

*edit: I bring this up because many people do not react well to meat substitutes. Gluten and soy intolerance affects many people and serving soy or gluten-based meat substitutes without prior informed consent can induce adverse reactions. I do believe that veganism in morally superior to carnivorism, but that still doesn't grant the right to trick others into consuming meat substitutes without their informed consent.

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