How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013) • Hacker News Board

Re: How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013)

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Post by greglindahl » Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 1:35 AM UTC

digi_owl wrote: post #137

greglindahl wrote: post #136

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Ah, now you want to talk about discovery! It so happens that I'm building a search engine for the Wayback Machine. But it's true that discovery for it is never going to be that great until the search engines that people commonly use index the Wayback, which is probably never.

I dunno why you seem to treat those as two separate issues. The way i see it, one feeds into the other. Wikipedia and other wikis have a repuration for being time/attention sinks, this because you can follow one article to another to another. Search don't do that. It may or may not barf up what you are looking for if fed the right terms, not much beyond that. Maybe what i have in mind is something akin to wikiquote b…

I don't think they're separate issues, and I totally agree that they feed into each other. I'm just having a hard time figuring out what this HN discussion is about.

Re: How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013)

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Post by Zarathust » Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 2:12 AM UTC

tdicola wrote: post #42

Wow a stackoverflow question that hasn't been closed or removed for some trivial reason--thought I'd never see something like that again.

Stackoverflow current objective is to answer precise technical questions related to programming. Open ended questions are generally frowned upon because they tend to be argumentative and generate debate, which SO is not well equipped to deal with. In the very beginnings of stackoverflow, the goals weren't as clearly defined and because of the overwhelming need for such a place, it quickly became flooded with any question related to computers. This is why serverfault and superuser were created along clearer rules regarding their respective content.

I am not sure why this question made it through, but "what do they have in common" generates a finite set of answers while "what are their differences" does not. The "real" place to ask such questions should be programmers.stackexchange.com. Unfortunately, it has 30 times less users and frankly, no one really cares about it. Moderators should use "Migrate question to [...]" instead of simply closing it.

I think everyone will agree that a question with 500 upvotes and 150k page views is interesting. The full problem is that SO has not managed to fit it anywhere.

Re: How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013)

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Post by cyphar » Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 7:29 AM UTC

sigjuice wrote: post #97

agumonkey wrote: post #10

Archived link juste in case http://archive.is/SvUO5

I appreciate your effort and sentiment, but it would be nice if the awful eyesores of ads were not plastered all over the page.

I'm confused. The only adds in the Internet Archive are the ones from the original page. Either you're getting MITM'd by someone who's injecting ads, or your ad blocker doesn't deal with archived links so well.

Re: How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013)

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Post by hrnnnnnn » Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 11:37 AM UTC

Houshalter wrote: post #85

brianwawok wrote: post #50

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You think stackoverflow has too many good questions being closed? If anything I think more could be closed.

Typically when an interesting stackoverflow thread is linked on HN, it's closed. I don't know why this is. But it gives a very bad impression of the site's moderators.

Almost every link I follow from Google to SO results in a "closed as offtopic" question.

Usually the question has the exact answer I was looking for (I guess that's why its pagerank is high).

Re: How are zlib, gzip and Zip related? (2013)

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Post by bch » Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 6:30 PM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #135

bch wrote: post #66

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Question not about ANS, but patenting: Wouldn't it make more sense for Apple (or anybody) to actually patent it, and keep those patents, but make it open via licensing ? If there's patentable material and $developer passes on filing for it, doesn't that leave it open for poaching by $third_party ?

Offtopic, but I wonder what do you intend to gain by writing "$word" instead of "a word".

As it ended up being posted, it really could have been "a ". During the course of producing it, it seemed like the entities involved might be confusing, and my first approach was to treat everything like a unique variable.

TLDR, made sense during composition, not w/ final product.