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Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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I was rejected the first time, got in the second time, but dropped out a week later to run a different company. We were profitable at 32 employees and got acquired by Zynga last month.

It is probably not an accident that this is phrased in such an odd way, with the subjects of the sentences missing. It should read " we got in the second time, but I dropped out a week later." What happened is that Siqi and a cofounder started YC, then a week in Siqi bailed and left his cofounder in the lurch because a side project of his had unexpectedly taken off. We suggested making the side project be the focus o…

All the dude gave was a brief description of his experience in response to what the original poster asked for. Calm down pg, you are not a god.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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We've definitely missed good startups. But one advantage of having so many competitors is that we're much more likely now to learn when we screw up. When a startup from one of the other YC-like organizations does well, I often check their YC application to see how we missed them. Usually it's because they were good guys but working on a terrible idea, which they later changed. So in response to that we now make a con…

Ok, what about if the opposite was true?

How do you handle situations where the idea is (in your opinion) great but the person is perhaps lacking for whatever reason?

Is this a situation where you pass or do you take a proverbial punt? Have you done so in the past (don't need to name names to save someone's ego)

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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We've definitely missed good startups. But one advantage of having so many competitors is that we're much more likely now to learn when we screw up. When a startup from one of the other YC-like organizations does well, I often check their YC application to see how we missed them. Usually it's because they were good guys but working on a terrible idea, which they later changed. So in response to that we now make a con…

Ok, what about if the opposite was true? How do you handle situations where the idea is (in your opinion) great but the person is perhaps lacking for whatever reason? Is this a situation where you pass or do you take a proverbial punt? Have you done so in the past (don't need to name names to save someone's ego)

We wouldn't fund a group if the founders were really lacking, e.g. if they seemed uncommitted, or not smart enough to build whatever they were planning to.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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post #14

I was rejected the first time, got in the second time, but dropped out a week later to run a different company. We were profitable at 32 employees and got acquired by Zynga last month.

It is probably not an accident that this is phrased in such an odd way, with the subjects of the sentences missing. It should read " we got in the second time, but I dropped out a week later." What happened is that Siqi and a cofounder started YC, then a week in Siqi bailed and left his cofounder in the lurch because a side project of his had unexpectedly taken off. We suggested making the side project be the focus o…

Siqi hadn't agreed to share his entire life with his YC cofounders and pretending otherwise is very childish. The fact that PG is being upvoted for this simply because he is PG is damaging to reasonable debate.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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I don't have a "YC missed out on investing in our insanely profitable company" story, but I did get rejected before finding myself at a YC company anyways. Evan Miller (emiller) and I applied for Summer 06. Evan had to do most of the work on our application because I had deadlines with my publisher on my Ruby book. I was proud that I was writing a book, so I mentioned it in my bio. In retrospect, I wonder if that doo…

your book is fucking awesome.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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Wow, this really stings coming from someone I respect so much. This is what happens when you leave without an explanation from YC I suppose. Paul, I agree I should have said "we got in the second time, but I dropped out a week later". I apologize for not being clear but I don't accept that there was anything wrong with what I said. To be clear, the side project of mine which took off was co-owned 50% by my another fo…

I created another account just so I could get around my noprocrast settings. Out of the 2 cofounders in YC, one I later hired to run network operations at my company and the other I am very close friends with and regularly have beers. We left on good terms. Why don't you ask the two of them what they think of me? You're the reason why I'm an entrepreneur today and I respect you immensely. To hear you describe what I…

Seems like everything was fair and transparent among them.

Reputation saved.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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Umm, hold on a second. So I have a cofounder and a startup, but I also do little side projects here and there on my own, mostly for fun / learning. Am I to understand that if one of them blows up and I elect to leave and pursue that instead of my current startup, I've committed "treachery" against my cofounder? If my cofounder had something like that happen to him, I'd be incredibly happy for him (and a little jealou…

As in everything: It depends. I don't know this story beyond what two people have just said. But, I know that if I commit to something, I expect my co-founder to also be committed to it (within the bounds of what we've agreed upon). Working on other projects now and then is fine and normal...it's what hackers do. But, if you've committed to build a business with someone, it's not really the idea that makes the busine…

Good point.

Maybe what happened was that he didn't know whether they'd get in YC or not so was OK with being part of the application.

Then they found out they got in and he realized he had to make a decision between the two projects and it took him one week to make that decision.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Umm, hold on a second. So I have a cofounder and a startup, but I also do little side projects here and there on my own, mostly for fun / learning. Am I to understand that if one of them blows up and I elect to leave and pursue that instead of my current startup, I've committed "treachery" against my cofounder? If my cofounder had something like that happen to him, I'd be incredibly happy for him (and a little jealou…

You're wrong because; A) pg was simply pointing out what the guy had failed to mention in his post. B) The manner in which you leave a partner to pursue your own thing can vary. It wasn't that he left, from pg's comment I get a feeling the issue is HOW the founder ended his affairs with YC and co-founder. So relax, keep your side projects. all though I highly recommend that you focus one at a time. put all you can in…

Yeah I mean I face this issue too and it can go both ways.

I've talked to other potential founders who like my idea and would want to participate as a side project. But I've been loathe to do that. Initially I thought more help would be better but as I started working on it, it just seemed like it would be a logistical nightmare. Also, PG has some words with people working part time which mostly were not good and I totally agreed with his points.

It's a double-edged sword though. It's infinitely easier to find someone who will work part time on your idea than be committed to it.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As in everything: It depends. I don't know this story beyond what two people have just said. But, I know that if I commit to something, I expect my co-founder to also be committed to it (within the bounds of what we've agreed upon). Working on other projects now and then is fine and normal...it's what hackers do. But, if you've committed to build a business with someone, it's not really the idea that makes the busine…

Good point. Maybe what happened was that he didn't know whether they'd get in YC or not so was OK with being part of the application. Then they found out they got in and he realized he had to make a decision between the two projects and it took him one week to make that decision.

That doesn't really make it better, and I can understand pg's disappointment, when a team falls apart almost instantly upon getting accepted. Ethically speaking, you don't ask someone to invest time, money, and effort into helping you build a business if you aren't actually going to build that business.

Re: Ask HN: Who got rejected in earlier cycles of YC application and made it anyway?

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That sucks. Oddly enough I actually know (well, actually met) Siqi back in the day when he was at Powerset. It's interesting to hear this kind of story. Go figure. :\

It wouldn't be wise, or kind, to judge based on hearsay, even pg's hearsay.

Yeah. Well I take it with a grain of salt I guess.

Anyway, I saw Siqi's response and it seems pretty legit.

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