China's obsession with the destruction of Tibet and its culture is truly troubling. If China has its way, hundreds of years from now, Tibet will be gone, no record of it will exist, etc.
Who remembers the Tibetians?
China issues demolition order on world’s largest religious town in Tibet
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#182I do not understand the cowardice and fear the Chinese government seem to have of a small buddhist settlement in the middle of nowhere high up in the mountains of Tibet... It looks like they feel the opposite of a superpower and that a few buddhist monks might threaten them so much they have to destroy them. It's very easy to forget how free we are by comparison to those persecuted in occupied territories.
Well there's always the Taiping rebellion in the 19th century [1] if you want an example about what happens when thing go bad with religion in China.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
>going unchecked, that town would surely become such a terrorists base Sounds a bit unrealistic to me. You haven't been getting your information from Chinese government controlled sources by any chance? I see they called the Dalai Lama holding a prayer session for monks who had killed themselves terrorism in disguise so I can see how you could worry too much buddhism could lead to prayer. https://www.theguardian.com/…
Nah, I grow up there. I knew the people. Using a Game of Throne analogy, Tibetan people are like free folks (or wildings) and Han people are like people south of the wall. When I was there growing up, every male Tibetan carry weapons (including boys) on their body. They are a militant people, yes they are deviant Buddhists too, but that doesn't mean they are not militant.
How funny. In some Korean websites I visit, I regularly see posts about Chinese workers carrying knives everywhere and how they're being a "menace" to the Korean society.
I guess demonizing neighbors is a universal human tendency.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's used as a cheap source of labour by many Israeli companies too. And while not occupied in the classical sense, everything's going in or out is controlled. The airspace is controlled, the place is heavily monitored and the populace are under no illusions as to has the power.
Its pretty clear everything going in and out is not controlled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Palestinian_rocket_at...
So some rockets and mortars were smuggled in? Let's ban most civilian use of road and kill the economy. At least that's what the Wikipedia article on the west bank says. It's compared to Apartheid South Africa for good reason.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, I grow up there. I knew the people. Using a Game of Throne analogy, Tibetan people are like free folks (or wildings) and Han people are like people south of the wall. When I was there growing up, every male Tibetan carry weapons (including boys) on their body. They are a militant people, yes they are deviant Buddhists too, but that doesn't mean they are not militant.
Can I ask if you are Han on Tibetian? To use an analogy that puts the Tibetians as the savage outsiders suggests you come from the civilised "good" side. Even if Tibetians are militant, they were invaded, surely that says something about their oppressors?
It should be obvious that I am Han. I agree that this analogy would give some people an impression that I considered Tibetans savages. But no, that's not how I saw it. The way I saw them is not unlike the way Jon Snow saw the free folks. Tibetan and Han actually share the same ancestry. We happened to be separated by a natural barrier (unlike the wall in GOT that is man made) only a couple thousands years ago. We are basically the same people.
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Yes? They would get a better human right record eventually? Firstly - China doesn't have a great human rights record right now. They have an excellent economy. The earlier communists themselves have one of the worst human rights records. And you don't "convince" anybody. You let them choose for themselves. Without that part - without being able to choose a bad choice, people can't learn from those mistakes. You think…
> You think the west learnt from someone else? "The west" learnt diddly squat, but even if we assume "we" did -- the most significant turn-point of Western history in the last 150 years was the Holocaust. Are we saying any ethnic conflict on the planet will have to go through a holocaust before anyone "learns"? > Thats why India has Gandhi ... and still discriminates and kills Muslims on a massive scale, even after p…
> ... and still discriminates and kills Muslims on a massive scale, even after partition.
As an Indian, I'm shocked to hear this. Did you ever live in India? "Massive scale", my ass. At least India didn't wipe out its population in a "Cultural Revolution"... Do you want to talk about Falun Gong? The harvesting of organs from FG prisoners?
Re: China issues demolition order on world’s largest religious town in Tibet
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, I grow up there. I knew the people. Using a Game of Throne analogy, Tibetan people are like free folks (or wildings) and Han people are like people south of the wall. When I was there growing up, every male Tibetan carry weapons (including boys) on their body. They are a militant people, yes they are deviant Buddhists too, but that doesn't mean they are not militant.
How funny. In some Korean websites I visit, I regularly see posts about Chinese workers carrying knives everywhere and how they're being a "menace" to the Korean society. I guess demonizing neighbors is a universal human tendency.
Not really. Chinese in Korean is in a foreign land as a minority. Tibetan carries weapons on their own land as a majority, minority Han there do not carry weapon on their body (but they do keep firearms at home, especially officials).
Re: China issues demolition order on world’s largest religious town in Tibet
#188Chinese are bullies. And bullies pee in their pants when faced with real resistance. That's the best way to describe it.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
> attacks targeting civilians that go on non-stop for the last hundred years Those go on non-stop from BOTH sides. And statistically the side you seem to be siding with has caused 100 times the casualties --doing those "brutal attacks targeting civilians" with full military force, not ad-hoc weaponry (plus they have amassed all this land areas they didn't use to have). Or is that just a minor detail?
The important detail here, which you ignore, is targeting.
I'm not sure I follow. How is bombing and attacking people in their lands (and then taking them) not targeting them?
Re: China issues demolition order on world’s largest religious town in Tibet
#190Your account has been active for 5 years. You should be aware that racism and non-constructive comments are not really acceptable here.
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