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Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#22
Just make doping legal.

Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time.

EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#23

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#24
post #23

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Track and field is the American English term for what you're calling "athletics".

Wrong. Track and Field are specific events on a running track, and include events on the field, like shotput and javelin. Obviously a millenial. I feel like I am wasting my time explaining it, when you could just look it up in a dictionary.

Parent was correct. In British English, "athletics" means almost precisely what Americans mean when they say "track and field," though athletics may also include long-distance (cross-country) races not typically held in a stadium.

Derision looks particularly tetchy on someone who can't be bothered to do what they lament others will not do themselves.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Track and field is the American English term for what you're calling "athletics".

Wrong. Track and Field are specific events on a running track, and include events on the field, like shotput and javelin. Obviously a millenial. I feel like I am wasting my time explaining it, when you could just look it up in a dictionary.

Don't start your replies with "Wrong", don't condescendingly use common English words like "milllenial" as insults, and don't reply at all if you feel like you're wasting your time.

Or do whatever you want, but that's why you've been downvoted.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#27
post #8

The article talks about 'track and field', which isn't a term I've ever heard before. It's the athletics team that's been banned isn't it? The article even sounds confused that 'track and field' is administered by an organisation called 'International Association of Athletics Federations', which could have been a clue that the name was wrong.

Track and Field is the common umbrella term for basically the sports that happen in the Olympic stadium: running, throwing, jumping, etc. i.e. the events that involve running on a "track" and doing activities in a "field". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_and_field

This is true, but the narrow, international definition of "athletics" (which Wikipedia calls "Sport of athletics") apparently includes road running, cross country running, and race walking. These are often not considered to fall under the term "track and field".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_of_athletics

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#28
Russia’s track and field team has been barred from competing in this summer’s Rio Games because of a far-reaching doping conspiracy, an extraordinary punishment that might be without precedent in Olympics history

off topic, but wow what a great opening to this article. It actually gets to the point in first sentence, and second sentence (not quoted here) states most important implications and how this news came to be. Reader has the option to keep reading to get more background. This is so crisp and refreshing compared to other articles that feel the need to start with some opening warm up that will get you to the point 1/3 of the way in.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#29

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Yes, let's force people to take horribly damaging drugs in order to compete. Including women -- because taking cross-sex hormones isn't terrible for your health at all.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

#30
post #23

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

AND forcing the athletes that biologically don't have to dope in order to win.
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