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Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by pietroalbini »

sp332 wrote: post #100
mtgx wrote: post #46

If they're going to use per-tab containers, doesn't it make sense to have per-tab sandboxing as well, to ensure there's no data leakage?

They just barely separated the chrome process from the rendering process. All tab content is rendered in the same process for now. Eventually they will separate it further but it's not done yet.

In Nightly you can enable one process per tab by changing dom.ipc.processCount to something like 1000.

It currently has some delay when you open a new tab, and a few quirks here and there, but it's mostly working.

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by darkroasted »

This is really neat, although it does not look slick enough to replace my own hacky word-around:

What I have been doing is creating a separate Chrome application launcher for my different life contexts -- http://lifehacker.com/5611711/create-application-shortcuts-i... I have one for anonymous browsing, one for work, one for personal-real-name, and one for pseudonymous browsing. I renamed the application so I can launch by typing "WorkChrome" or "PersonalChrome" in spotlight search. Each Chrome app then runs with a separate profile, separate cookies, etc. I have a different icon and colored theme for each one, so that I never make a mistake with regards to which I am browsing in. I can have multiple open at the same time and tab switch between them.

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by _lce0 »

Jordrok wrote: post #109
yAnonymous-work wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed.

I still think that better support for contextual identities would be a net-positive across the board for the web, but I have to say that this little stunt gave me a good chuckle. Bravo!

Next step: build a plug in to automate the self vote up!

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by rmc »

red_admiral wrote: post #27

This could not be more welcome at a time when facebook (UK) is displaying a new bar across the top of its page saying that by using it, I agree: "By clicking or navigating the site, you agree to allow our collection of information on and off Facebook through cookies." I already have a separate chromium "person" set up for facebook; might give firefox another go when this gets released.

One great thing about the EU law, is they are implying that "clicking the site" does not count as "unambiguous, informed consent".

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by sp332 »

pietroalbini wrote: post #111
sp332 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just barely separated the chrome process from the rendering process. All tab content is rendered in the same process for now. Eventually they will separate it further but it's not done yet.

In Nightly you can enable one process per tab by changing dom.ipc.processCount to something like 1000. It currently has some delay when you open a new tab, and a few quirks here and there, but it's mostly working.

It has a lot of bugs left. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=e10s-... And they haven't even started adding sandboxing between processes.

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by Nadya »

laported wrote: post #104
Nadya wrote: post #88

I am always confused by the lack of user customization in features like this. Why am I limited to four containers? Why can't I rename them? Four is not enough (personally, though I imagine it would be for most people) and remembering which identity is under "Work" and which is under "Shopping" is just an annoyance when none of my identities would be for "Work" or "Shopping". It would be faster and less annoying to si…

This is a complex feature to implement and they "don't have all the answers...yet, but hope to start uncovering some of them with user research and feedback." If customization is important to you, you can let them know: "We hope to gather feedback on this basic experience to see how we can iterate on the design to make it more convenient, elegant, and usable for our users. Try it out and share your feedback by fillin…

My post was more of a mini-rant about how UX of otherwise useful/good features always seems to be an afterthought. The UX ends up being poor resulting in an underused and often later abandoned feature.

Although it is likely my social niche - I know more people with multiple personal or social accounts who will find this feature useful but have a terrible UX due to the container names.

"Hand me the long, blue screwdriver - by which I mean the short, red hammer." - terrible UX

I'll be providing concern this as feedback via email when I get home and have access to my personal email.

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by yAnonymous »

_lce0 wrote: post #113
Jordrok wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still think that better support for contextual identities would be a net-positive across the board for the web, but I have to say that this little stunt gave me a good chuckle. Bravo!

Next step: build a plug in to automate the self vote up!

And separate proxy/user agent/other trackable stuff settings for every context.

My post was not only a joke. This has serious potential to make multi-account tracking a nightmare... as it should, but not everything about that is good.

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by Manishearth »

Nadya wrote: post #88

I am always confused by the lack of user customization in features like this. Why am I limited to four containers? Why can't I rename them? Four is not enough (personally, though I imagine it would be for most people) and remembering which identity is under "Work" and which is under "Shopping" is just an annoyance when none of my identities would be for "Work" or "Shopping". It would be faster and less annoying to si…

I was at the talk where this was announced -- four containers is just for now as a prototype, they probably would have the ability for custom ones later (this was explicitly mentioned).

Re: Contextual Identities on the Web

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Post by greggman »

Very cool.

I think I'd love to be able to define which domains open in which contexts so if I click a link that happens to be to something I want in other context ...

But that got me thinking just how effective will this be? If someone sends me a link in fb and I click it. Even if it opens in a new context it seems like it's only a matter of time before all the links are changed to https://destsite.com/path/to/resource#fbtrackingid or something similar which then adds the cookie across contexts?

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