If they were running a Windows server, they didn't care about their data.
Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Genuine question - can you post some more information?
It was a quote from the TV show 'Yes, Minister': James Hacker: How am I going to explain the missing documents to "The Mail"? Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well, this is what we normally do in circumstances like these. James Hacker: [reads memo] This file contains the complete set of papers, except for a number of secret documents, a few others which are part of still active files, some correspondence lost in the floods of 1…
Reminds me of this: The Front Fell Off - http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a Lockheed snafu, so yes, it is amateur hour. Much of the data is backed up, and more of it will be retrievable from original sources. Maybe not all of it; I'll be very interested to see what gaps remain when they declare the issue resolved.
Lockheed is one of those companies that fires senior people to save money. Imagine how this plays out with turbine blades.
Why do companies do this, instead of "pay cut, take it or leave it?"
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#44There has been too much recently of government agencies losing data due to "crashes" or "inadvertent" deletions. For example the IRS, state department, and now the Air Force. A really easy way to fix this is to make a law so that if government data such as this gets lost, then the cabinet level person responsible for overseeing the agency immediately loses their cabinet level position and is barred from further work…
This idea is too simplistic. Although I used to support it. I've changed my position from yours to 'retrained and demotion' position. Since people make mistakes, I think being 'barred from further work' is counter-productive and the government would lose out on many able and competent workers. Heck, this idea could also be exploited by lower-level workers due to not liking their higher-up bosses; i.e. a lower-level w…
Indeed, such ideas would create an atmosphere of fear and increase cover-ups, rather than solve problems. There needs to be a solution that acknowledges the inevitably of mistakes and still deals with the issue.
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#45>Data about current investigations has also been lost, which is delaying them.
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>"We've opened an investigation to try to find out what’s going on, but right now, we just don’t know," Stefanek said.
I wonder where they're putting the files for that investigation.
I wonder if their backups were corrupted too, or if they just overwrite the old ones with newer ones as a cost-saving measure. Or whether no one ever tried restoring from them and for whatever reason they never could have been restored from.
Since people rarely prioritize it until it's too late, maybe 'restore from backup' drills should be a common thing.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would consider it progress. The only data loss to Google that I was able to find was [0], where a single datacenter was hit by lightning 4 times in short succession, and 0.000001% of disk space in said datacenter was lost. And only because the lost data consisted of recent writes that had yet to be backed up. And only because the lightning affected the AUX power systems in a way that they have since committed to fi…
one point anecdote: Google's Keep lost my data after it decided to upgrade itself (gone from phone and cloud). Just some notes but still.
Check if they are in your archive. I thought it deleted mine too however I just found them in there.
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#47Any information on the contract with Lockheed or the consequences of catastrophic failure?
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#48There has been too much recently of government agencies losing data due to "crashes" or "inadvertent" deletions. For example the IRS, state department, and now the Air Force. A really easy way to fix this is to make a law so that if government data such as this gets lost, then the cabinet level person responsible for overseeing the agency immediately loses their cabinet level position and is barred from further work…
Can not agree more. Losing data must be considered a same level of crime as losing money or life.
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#49Good Grief. For a lot less than an F-35 program, they could install a TSM rig, with off sight backup.
Ours (at a state university) deals with petabytes of data. We've had to escalate to IBM's Tier 3 support a couple of times over the past decade, but we have never lost a file.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lockheed is one of those companies that fires senior people to save money. Imagine how this plays out with turbine blades.
Why do companies do this, instead of "pay cut, take it or leave it?"
It's never phrased that boldly. People aren't "fired", their contracts are not renewed, or they are declared redundant because of the new kid with an advanced degree... usually just after they've finished training the new kid.
The most common move is to cut the highest paid section of the workforce after they acquire the service contract from a competitor. All major defense firms do this, which leads to problems maintaining institutional continuity.