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Google Fonts Redesigned

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Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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Looks great in Chrome, completely broken in Firefox: https://i.imgur.com/XRMgcHp.png .

I see the same thing in Chrome 51.0.2704.84 m, Windows 10. I noticed my font rendering in Chrome started to be terrible a couple of days ago, so might be on me.

Hmm, Windows update + restart seems to have fixed the font rendering in general, but this page still looks the same.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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How is not devoting time to supporting a proprietary browser doing a disservice to the open web?

Sounds like parent is saying Google is spending time to deliberately block/not support Edge.

How much time would they have to spend with support requests if they don't spend the small amount of time required to tell people to use something else? I understand your point, but I personally don't care about proprietary software not working with certain websites -- they chose to make it their problem alone. It sucks that Google isn't choosing to not support them because of _that_, it's because they've had bad experiences with old IE implementations of standards.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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The first one on the list had convinced me this was a very interestingly-trained Markov chain generator. I need to read more Philip K. Dick.

Who still remembers MegaHal? https://megahal.alioth.debian.org/ Some of my favorites: COULD SHAKE MY TINY FIST AND SWEAR I WASN'T WRONG, BUT WHAT'S THE SENSE IN ARGUING WHEN YOU'RE MUCH TOO BUSY RETURNING TO THE LAVATORY. AMAZING GRACE, HOW SWEET THE SOUND OF ONE OR MORE NUMBERS REPRESENTED IN DIGITAL FORM. SATAN GUIDES US TELEPATHICLY THROUGH RECTAL THERMOMETERS. WHY DO YOU THINK ABOUT META-REASONING?

Looking through the "Classic Quotes" list, it's apparent that MegaHAL was a big They Might Be Giants fan.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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post #93

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They do provide proper cache headers. They cache the CSS for 1 day. The actual font files are cached for a lot longer than that. The reason for shorter cache periods for CSS is that Google are continually making improvements. The font files are different e.g. for Mac vs Windows because they are optimized for platforms. In general you will find that all URLs that are directly called from millions of websites (e.g. fac…

> They do provide proper cache headers. They cache the CSS for 1 day. The actual font files are cached for a lot longer than that. I don't see it, not with curl at least. Looks like actual fonts are cached for a year. But not CSS, > curl https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans -i expires:Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:02:03 GMT date:Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:02:03 GMT At the very least they should allow to control that with…

Expires is a HTTP/1.0 header, Cache-Control is HTTP/1.1 and used by anything created in the last 10-15 years. Most sites set the Expires header similar to their Cache-Control max-age, but I guess Google just doesn't care and it doesn't really matter anyway.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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post #197

This is nice and all (apart from an astonishing—even for Google—degree of browser compatibility regression), but what I really want is for the actual fonts to be updated. Crimson Text, for example, is an outdated version of the font, which it breaks a little further too. Upstream ( https://github.com/skosch/Crimson ) has seen substantial improvements, but Google has never updated it, ignoring the author’s pleas.

Hear, hear :) Same for many others, e.g. Montserrat or many of Vernon Adam's designs. That being said, I find the redesign wonderful and long overdue. Maybe now they'll find the time to update their collection.

Any suggestions on finding the latest, greatest versions of these fonts?

For example, I found what appears to be the home page of Monsterrat (http://montserrat.zkysky.com.ar/en) but it directs me to Google Fonts. Similarly, I searched for "vernon adams fonts" and I don't see what looks like a canonical page for them.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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This is nice and all (apart from an astonishing—even for Google—degree of browser compatibility regression), but what I really want is for the actual fonts to be updated. Crimson Text, for example, is an outdated version of the font, which it breaks a little further too. Upstream ( https://github.com/skosch/Crimson ) has seen substantial improvements, but Google has never updated it, ignoring the author’s pleas.

> …Google has never updated it, ignoring the author’s pleas.

It looks like the source repo is at https://github.com/google/fonts — has he tried a pull request? If not, maybe we can help with updates until they make it friendlier for less-technical creators.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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At my work we just decided this week that we will no longer support IE or Edge. We won't actively block them (or show a message) and if the site works in those browser then great. But, we won't test in IE or Edge and we won't make any bug fixes just for those browsers. Frankly the number of users using those browsers (low for our site) versus the number of hours required to fix problems with those browsers (high in o…

I mean, that's fair for you to make that business decision, but if I'm a customer of yours and having issues, and I find out you're not supporting me, I'm just going to do business with someone else. And if that's fine with you, it's fine with me too. Where I work, we need to use IE for many things, and we have exactly one piece of software that requires a different browser. If in the future, I have the opportunity t…

I have seen plenty of corporate software that was supposed to work with exactly that version of IE. When you were automatically forced to upgrade to a newer version usually nothing worked anymore. In some cases even forcing the compatibility layer. I would rather see that kind of software, developers that produced it and users disappear. In my experience few things are more annoying than an IE specific website. If you are happy with it, then great for you. But I believe that you are the first person that is actually happy to use IE given the aforementioned quirks.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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There is still two pages for single font, one such as this:

https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans

And now this:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Open+Sans?query=open+sans

First one always comes up in search results, and is nothing but a link to real page. What gives? This is terrible user experience, if I search for Google fonts, there shouldn't be multiple pages for same font.

Re: Google Fonts Redesigned

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I mean, that's fair for you to make that business decision, but if I'm a customer of yours and having issues, and I find out you're not supporting me, I'm just going to do business with someone else. And if that's fine with you, it's fine with me too. Where I work, we need to use IE for many things, and we have exactly one piece of software that requires a different browser. If in the future, I have the opportunity t…

I have seen plenty of corporate software that was supposed to work with exactly that version of IE. When you were automatically forced to upgrade to a newer version usually nothing worked anymore. In some cases even forcing the compatibility layer. I would rather see that kind of software, developers that produced it and users disappear. In my experience few things are more annoying than an IE specific website. If yo…

It's not really about being "happy" to use IE. It's about using what does the job.
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