However, foreign McDonalds are very very different. I would visit one of those again, sure. The quality is a world away different.
In poor neighborhoods, McDonald’s have become de-facto community centers
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
The interesting question is, if this is a sign for an achievement of McDonalds or a failure of the society?
I wish the article had expanded on the unsuitability of community centers due to their bureaucracy. It just mentions it in a couple of words and never elaborates. It seems like it should be easy to provide just a simple public space with basic amenities, without even any activities (which is the low bar set by McDonald's). The big exception of course being that food isn't served, but running a little competent sandwi…
Notably with the Sikh's the langar hall (where langar, a free meal, is always served) is the hub of a Gurdwara - seemingly food is the great social leveller!
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#193McDonalds is the only restaurant I enjoy eating at with my 2 and 3 year olds. Every other restaurant is a slog to get through the meal. Honestly I'd eat there more often if it weren't for the social stigma of it. (I live in Berkeley). I am pretty sure the cheeseburger, apple slices, and chocolate milk are not much worse, and probably better, than the typical fare on a slapped together kids meal. When I was a kid, my…
Hey I like going to McDonalds with the kids now and then too. But if this is the only nice place to go where you live I find that truly sad. I love taking my kids out eating but my favorite places are different Italian restaurants. Some area really good at making thin Italian pizza and other are really good with the pasta.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your kids are your kids and it's your choice how to raise them given your financial and time constraints, but teaching a 3-year-old to associate comfort and happiness with unhealthy food doesn't strike me as the wisest decision. When they are old enough and responsible enough for their bodies, they might decide on their own that they enjoy nicotine, corn syrup, salt, starch, and fry oil - but why bias them towards su…
> Your kids are your kids and it's your choice how to raise them. Full stop. No need to continue with the rest of your judgements. Parenting is a very hard job, and it's only made worse by all the parents (and even worse--non-parents) that want to make judgements. Being a parent, I now have a profound respect and appreciation for my parents (especially my mother). Things weren't always great, but they did the best th…
Dude, I was growing up in the dying days of the Soviet Union, with empty shelves and lines and ration cards, and growing vegetables on a little private plot to make it through the winter without vitamin deficiency. I know very well what it's like to try to provide the best you can for your family when the circumstances don't allow you to provide much at all.
But there's an enormous difference between going to a fast food place because the kids are hungry and the fridge is empty and that's the place which is open and nearby and affordable, and regularly bringing kids to a fast food place just because I like the ambience.
And as a general principle, if I am not open to criticism and judgment of others, I am hobbling my ability improve. In any aspect of life. Work or scholarship or raising a child.
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#195McDonalds is the master in orchestrating food. I love McDonalds and I think their hamburger is the best hamburger, their french fries are the best and all the other menu options have this typical McDonalds design--everything, every single piece and ingredient is meticulously thought through and the final dish has a perfect taste. The taste you get for the carb in-take is unmatched. It's cool to hate McDonalds, I know…
Really? That's surprising. I've always assumed people went to McDonald's because it's everywhere and it's just damn easy to order there, and you won't get any surprises. It's the "lazy option" for me.
Their food is subpar and their hamburgers are mediocre. Note I'm not comparing their food with gourmet food, but with hamburgers from smaller, non-franchise restaurants. I love well-made burgers; once you've tasted one that wasn't made out of a frozen patty, you can never go back. As for the actual restaurant -- the place, I mean -- all the McDonald's I know are garish, clownish, hideous places designed as if they wanted you out of there as soon as possible. Which I guess makes sense in a fast-food joint.
I'm not from the US but I know for a fact you can get awesome burgers there. Why anyone not in a hurry would stop at McDonald's is puzzling to me.
Re: In poor neighborhoods, McDonald’s have become de-facto community centers
#196McDonalds is the only restaurant I enjoy eating at with my 2 and 3 year olds. Every other restaurant is a slog to get through the meal. Honestly I'd eat there more often if it weren't for the social stigma of it. (I live in Berkeley). I am pretty sure the cheeseburger, apple slices, and chocolate milk are not much worse, and probably better, than the typical fare on a slapped together kids meal. When I was a kid, my…
Oh, and free Android tablets! You can really bask in the judgement of others :)
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#197> I am pretty sure the cheeseburger, apple slices, and chocolate milk are not much worse, and probably better, than the typical fare on a slapped together kids meal. Wow. It saddens me to see that statement. I thought it was commonly knowledge that McDonalds isn't actually "food" in the nutrition and health sense of the word any more than cotton candy and pure salt are.
To be fair to the original commenter... a "kid's meal" isn't typically "food" either in the nutritional sense. A lot of "food" made for "kids" is actually devoid of nutritional content in the best cases... and actually harmful in the worst cases.
My kids would rather eat cheap Maki rolls from a local sushi spot than American fast food. In many cases, it actually cheaper.
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#199McDonalds is the only restaurant I enjoy eating at with my 2 and 3 year olds. Every other restaurant is a slog to get through the meal. Honestly I'd eat there more often if it weren't for the social stigma of it. (I live in Berkeley). I am pretty sure the cheeseburger, apple slices, and chocolate milk are not much worse, and probably better, than the typical fare on a slapped together kids meal. When I was a kid, my…
Your kids are your kids and it's your choice how to raise them given your financial and time constraints, but teaching a 3-year-old to associate comfort and happiness with unhealthy food doesn't strike me as the wisest decision. When they are old enough and responsible enough for their bodies, they might decide on their own that they enjoy nicotine, corn syrup, salt, starch, and fry oil - but why bias them towards su…
That's how you know the McDonalds hate is really about judging and not about health.
It's like people who only care about rape when there's a Muslim suspect. If they really cared about it, they would talk about it outside of the context of religion.
Re: In poor neighborhoods, McDonald’s have become de-facto community centers
#200McDonalds is the master in orchestrating food. I love McDonalds and I think their hamburger is the best hamburger, their french fries are the best and all the other menu options have this typical McDonalds design--everything, every single piece and ingredient is meticulously thought through and the final dish has a perfect taste. The taste you get for the carb in-take is unmatched. It's cool to hate McDonalds, I know…
Perhaps that strawman exists. I know that we don't eat at McDonald's because we believe that factory farming[1] is inhumane and that grass-fed beef and dairy from animals that weren't stressed their whole lives is likely to be healthier. Also bad: large producers of animal products have been overusing antibiotics, leading to possible major problems for the human race in the future. McDonald's is not the worst in the industry, but they're still bad by these particular measures.
I totally agree that eating a McDonald's-like meal from time-to-time isn't going to wreck anyone's health. I also know that many people don't care about the animals, or can't afford the cost of well-cared for animal products.
I guess my point boils down to "all generalizations are wrong". You love McDonald's and that's fine. But your characterization of people who don't like McDonald's and their desire to purchase "their overpriced crap food" shows that you're not seeing another side to the story.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_animal_farming#Anima...