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Why I’m done with Apple

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Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by lifebeyondfife »

forthefuture wrote: post #55
lifebeyondfife wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that we should choose the best in class wherever possible, but doesn't Apple assume that you're all-in? The reason I bought an Archos when the first iPods came out was because it let me treat the mp3 player as a portable harddrive i.e. I wasn't locked into iTunes. Some Apple products are second to none but for reasons of pragmatism, I'm Windows + Linux VM + Android phone.

I might be a bad millenial, but I just use my phone for talking, text chat, and chrome. The apps are pretty much the same so every few years I can just pick the best looking phone at the time with no lockin. Google lockin is a lot more significant because they offer actually useful services that I do want to centralize.

With you on Google lock in. I'm off all significant Google services except Gmail. Still waiting for a paid, web based mail provider with quality search.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by VelNZ »

lifebeyondfife wrote: post #61
forthefuture wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be a bad millenial, but I just use my phone for talking, text chat, and chrome. The apps are pretty much the same so every few years I can just pick the best looking phone at the time with no lockin. Google lockin is a lot more significant because they offer actually useful services that I do want to centralize.

With you on Google lock in. I'm off all significant Google services except Gmail. Still waiting for a paid, web based mail provider with quality search.

I recommend FastMail, it's refreshingly fast after Gmail and the search works great. They have a free trial.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by S_A_P »

return0 wrote: post #29

What i don't get, is why technical people so passionately want to choose camps. Esp. given that most of them can easily use their knowledge to make things work in a heterogeneous environment. Apple makes for a phone that is imho the best compromise. MS makes a desktop that imho is the best compromise. Linux makes imho the best server platform. Fanboyism is neither "cute" nor responsible. Tech writers should actively…

This. Thank you.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by petercooper »

notifier2050 wrote: post #46
petercooper wrote: post #38

Where developers go, it seems the mass market ends up later on. So you saw a lot of MacBooks at dev conferences from the mid 2000s on, but now.. you're seeing them start to get replaced with Surfaces and other avant garde PCs. MSFT is doing a better job of understanding what developers want lately, and I'm bullish on what this will mean long term if Apple's going to drop the ball on us.

What avant garde PCs have you seen?

I'm a Mac guy so I can't give brands but I've been seeing those tablet/computer hybrid things (not necessarily Surfaces) at conferences where I'd have seen 99% Macs before.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by krmmalik »

S_A_P wrote: post #30

Lucky for this guy Apple is the only company that has power, processing power, and 3rd party developer constraints to deal with when creating their products. The laws of physics don't apply to other companies. He should be very happy from now on because all other products are fully baked and have no quirks. The one thing that does worry me is that he will buy the new galaxy 7 and the write an essay about how atrociou…

I was a long time Apple fan. I stayed on the iPhone track for 7 years, upgrading every 2 years. Even I thought this article was too much. As you say, his complaints are mostly for 5yr old products. I had other complaints. There's no clear winner. I have a Oneplus One and I love how flexible it is; it's not a walled garden in the way iOS would be but I'd be rather disingenuous if I said that its not without its issues. The latest CM update now causes my phone to completely drop off the network every 2 or 3 hours and then I have to remember to search for a network manually to get back on. Have missed so many important calls in the last few weeks.

I miss the days of polished products that just work. Apple had that down to a tee, so even when they had less features, I was still happy because at least it was dependable. It's just not like that on their mobile devices anymore.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by simonh »

forthefuture wrote: post #53
simonh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just find it hard to understand how someone with such a long history of deep and personally felt gripes with Apple products talked themselves into buying a 1st gen Apple Watch. I mean I'm a very happy and satisfied Apple customer, but decided not to touch AW for the first gen because it's pretty obviously a marginal utility device and since it's a brand new interaction model sure to have some jankeyness. But no, th…

Yeah the ironic thing is that I've chosen to not purchase apple products more than the author, and still have less animosity towards them. You have to really want to like something to be that upset not to like it.

Maybe it's Apple Marketing's fault. They make the products look so good, if you don't like them you feel like the flaw is in yourself not the product.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by dloose »

lifebeyondfife wrote: post #49
return0 wrote: post #29

What i don't get, is why technical people so passionately want to choose camps. Esp. given that most of them can easily use their knowledge to make things work in a heterogeneous environment. Apple makes for a phone that is imho the best compromise. MS makes a desktop that imho is the best compromise. Linux makes imho the best server platform. Fanboyism is neither "cute" nor responsible. Tech writers should actively…

I agree that we should choose the best in class wherever possible, but doesn't Apple assume that you're all-in? The reason I bought an Archos when the first iPods came out was because it let me treat the mp3 player as a portable harddrive i.e. I wasn't locked into iTunes. Some Apple products are second to none but for reasons of pragmatism, I'm Windows + Linux VM + Android phone.

You're misremembering. The first iPods did mount as a disk for general file storage. They weren't locked into iTunes either... they supported MP3, AAC, and several other formats.

Re: Why I’m done with Apple

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Post by vilmosi »

bdcravens wrote: post #9

"the plethora of stagnant apps you force onto my device" While I agree, any stock Android phone from a carrier has quite a few itself.

That may be true but it is a smaller problem for Android.

You don't need a folder called "Junk" because they are not cluttering the home screen, they are buried in the app drawer.

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