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Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

I've heard this sentiment with 3D Touch and Siri before. I'm probably an outlier, but I use each about a dozen times or so a day.

3D Touch is one of the reasons I upgraded to the 6S. Lack of 3D Touch was the one thing that disappointed me the most about the new iPad Pro. I wasn't sure at first if it was something I'd end up using long-term, but it didn't take long for me to develop a lot of habits around it. Here are some of my daily actions through 3D Touch:

* When I go to Starbucks, I use 3D Touch to get to the app's Pay option. * I use it on the Phone app to quickly dial the people I call the most. * Same with iMessage. * I use it on Sleep Cycle to quickly start my morning alarm. * On Intercom to speed up launching/getting to the part of the UI I want (People vs. different support mailboxes). * Day One to quickly record a journal entry. * Drafts to jot down a quick bit of info (someone's name or something, or a thought) to later process/organize somewhere. * Pandora to quickly get to my most-used stations (I only really have a few I often use, so it's perfect)

When I need to place a call and am in the middle of something (getting ready in the morning, looking something up, making dinner, etc.), I use Siri. Actually, I'd say most of my calls are placed with Siri unless I have the phone in my hand.

"Hey Siri, call on speakerphone" is pretty common here.

I also use Siri to start timers for laundry or to remind me of something I need to think about later. "Hey Siri, in 4 hours, remind me to do ".

I hate naps, but sometimes I need them. "Hey Siri, wake me in 30 minutes."

I ask her every day in the morning what the weather's going to be like. Even though I live in Palo Alto and it's not exactly hard to guess. Super handy when I'm going to go somewhere else though.

I also use her as an app launcher pretty frequently. Mostly in the morning when I want to kick off some music at home. I'll wake up, start getting dressed, and say "Hey Siri, launch Harmony." Since that takes a few seconds to launch sometimes, I do that while I'm otherwise occupied. Then when I can get to the phone, I just have to tap the item on the screen to get music going.

My car will let me know when I have incoming texts, but I can't respond through it, so Siri's also my dictation if I'm stopped at a red and need to fire off a message to someone saying I'm late.

So that's how I use 3D Touch and Siri. Consider me a data point :)

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Why build a first party messaging app if most people aren't going to use it? For people who just want to send plain text messages the UI is pretty much identical. Text box, type, send.

What if I want to receive plain text messages?

In that case, I think I still have an old Motorola Razr lying around in a drawer somewhere you can have...

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Since they’re tweaking copy/paste to work between devices, hopefully they are also working on the phone UI for text selection. Before I care about cloud-sharing any text, I need to be able to SELECT IT properly, and frankly iOS fails completely at this right now. They need to remove the second-guessing, over-selecting, contextually-smartly-selecting code, or whatever it is doing now.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Finally they managed to remove the weird intelligent selection behavior in safari!!! (The one that unpredictable marks blocks or the whole website). Thank you apple :) They also ignore any viewport meta data so you can always zoom. My Cordova app doesn't like this :( I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically

Interesting. Got any details on that?

The releasenotes mention at least the zooming in safari.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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I find Siri useful for certain things. 'Set a timer for 20 minutes' is faster for me than using the clock app. 'Navigate to the nearest gas station' is faster. Setting reminders is usually faster with Siri. Especially geofences ones. Finding pictures in a location is much easier with Siri.. "Find pictures at Lake Tahoe" The main problem is that you have to remember what you can do.

"Set a timer for 20 minutes" is heavenly. No, extra bloat like, "Shall I start it now?", it just starts ticking as soon as you as for it. Every time you feed a parking meter, I recommend this feature.

I also use voice to start timers, probably more than once a day on average.

Which is why, by now, the idiotic and unfunny jokes Siri makes almost every time I do that are really fucking annoying (even though it doesn't say them out loud, and I just have to see them printed on the screen).

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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3D Touch is to iOS as the Option key is to macOS. Hold down the Option key and click on Airport or volume control to see what I mean in macOS. It gives you more information, and the information it provides is information you didn't necessarily need to have without holding down the Option key. In airport, with the option key held, you see options to generate a wireless diagnostics report. Without the option key held,…

I've been using macs for I guess a decade or so now and I still have no idea what the option key is for. When a keyboard shortcut is like ^+⌥+F6 I just mash buttons until it works. Why do they use a different symbol on the button than in the UI? I really have no desire to learn the seven different buttons in Mac OS and I wish application authors would stop using them so they could someday simplify the keyboard. I don…

I miss open-apple and closed-apple. I guess I didn't realize that Apple took those away at some point, and that the command and option symbols aren't printed on the keyboard anymore. Weird.

I am still not sure why PC keyboards have a context menu key. I've only ever pressed it by accident.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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post #125

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists) I think people know it exists. The problem is that it doesn't do anything remotely useful, except for the iPhone keyboard cursor thing. > Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I use it all the time (at least once a day) to add a reminder, set a timer, set an alarm, check sports scores (I don't really follow sports, so this will…

> The problem is that it doesn't do anything remotely useful

I've used 3D Touch about 20 times today in the 4 hours I've been awake. None of those have been the keyboard cursor either.

(Workflow, LINE, Messenger, Buffer, Camera, ...)

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Was it just me, or ability to interact and access personal data on the lock screen on a locked phone seems little insecure?

I've got iOS 10.0 installed and there is nothing you can do from my lock screen except access the camera. Settings has you completely covered if you want to disable those things.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

#239

Finally they managed to remove the weird intelligent selection behavior in safari!!! (The one that unpredictable marks blocks or the whole website). Thank you apple :) They also ignore any viewport meta data so you can always zoom. My Cordova app doesn't like this :( I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically

> I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically

I'm hoping it can't - being unable to zoom a web page means it goes on the shit list because then I can't read it how I want to.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Looks pretty interesting.... Apple is putting support for 3D touch, more features we expect to come & a better siri support for future...Siri is fine now I think, developers should work more hard for siri!!!
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