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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by sjwright »

arca_vorago wrote: post #339
mayoff wrote: post #175

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To be fair (regarding "closed tech"), Apple was hardly the only one to release a propriety Vulkan alternative (there's also Mantle and DX12) and Apple released Metal to developers almost two years before Vulkan 1.0 was released.

You know, I really think this line of argument on HN is getting old and needs to be relegated to the dustbin of intellectual discussion. Saying "Well, but X did $similarthing" as a loose form of justification of whatever Z is doing, like some strange variation of the "not as bad" fallacy. (Though I understand you're point about industry modus operandi) a cookie if anyone knows the actual fallacy this falls under

It falls under the appeal to hypocrisy fallacy, albeit with inverted logic.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by noelsusman »

snuxoll wrote: post #400
Analemma_ wrote: post #236

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> Linux, please take off. Sorry, no can do. We have to complete the process of breaking everything with systemd, then as soon as that's done rewrite KDE and Gnome from scratch again .

I swear, I must be the only person on the planet satisfied with the current state of systemd and GNOME 3. Fedora 23 is my main workstation OS and I have the least amount of friction getting my work done on it compared to either Windows or macOS these days. Then again, I mostly spend my day in IntelliJ, DataGrip, PyCharm, Firefox, a terminal, and a Windows VM for when I'm forced to open Visual Studio.

You are not alone. I've been running Arch with GNOME as my main workhorse and I couldn't be happier. It just works.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by wtracy »

runn1ng wrote: post #360
tajen wrote: post #317

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That Apple doesn't do quality anymore? For Mac OS, system bugs are increasing release after release, kernel panics were introduced in Mavericks and didn't go away with El Capitan even though it was supposed to be a bugfix-centric release. I also have deactivated upgrades.

If you are scared of updates breaking stuff, Linux is not the best choice either. Updates to OS regularly breaks graphics and Wi-Fi drivers for me; after every second update I have to solve "why is everything black" and "why are all videos green". Of all the things I disliked on OS X when I moved to Linux, instability with updates is even worse here.

This depends a lot on which distribution you go with.

Gentoo is notorious for regularly breaking things. Debian has a reputation for constantly being two years out of date because because of their QA process.

Ubuntu is somewhere in between, though lately it has been leaning towards the "Let's change everything every six months!" end of the spectrum. You can mitigate this a bit by sticking to their LTS releases, though. (This is what I'm doing currently.)

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by PascLeRasc »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #271
PascLeRasc wrote: post #257

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I think a bigger reason it's doing so well is because you don't need a phone number to contact someone. I have several friends who I first talked to on FB Messenger before I had their phone number. Their wifi/data-based group messaging is also far superior to MMS groups.

You don't need to use a phone number for iMessage and FaceTime, IIRC it also supports email addresses.

Still, you can meet someone organically and follow up with talking to them the next day knowing just their name and what mutual friends you have. Email and phone numbers are both unnatural arbitrary strings compared to names.

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Post by runn1ng »

wtracy wrote: post #423
runn1ng wrote: post #360

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If you are scared of updates breaking stuff, Linux is not the best choice either. Updates to OS regularly breaks graphics and Wi-Fi drivers for me; after every second update I have to solve "why is everything black" and "why are all videos green". Of all the things I disliked on OS X when I moved to Linux, instability with updates is even worse here.

This depends a lot on which distribution you go with. Gentoo is notorious for regularly breaking things. Debian has a reputation for constantly being two years out of date because because of their QA process. Ubuntu is somewhere in between, though lately it has been leaning towards the "Let's change everything every six months!" end of the spectrum. You can mitigate this a bit by sticking to their LTS releases, thoug…

Yeah, I am at ubuntu, since that seemed like the easiest distro to get started, but now I am afraid of switching and setting up all the graphic drivers again. (and working around bugs in Network Manager again. Come on guys, it's software with which people connect to Internet, why is so important thing so buggy.)

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Post by largote »

kahnpro wrote: post #358
izacus wrote: post #212

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High-level features like 3x larger emojis in an app? O.o

Yeah, I wasn't really sure what I was watching there... this is Apple?

These days, WWDC keynotes have the general public and media as their target audience.

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Post by bane »

majewsky wrote: post #310
banach wrote: post #273

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As someone who has used Windows, Mac and Linux as both personal and work OS for > 5 years each, I'm curious to know how come (you don't see yourself getting one in the future). The two things I have against the Apple platform compared to Microsoft and Google are Apple's bias toward lock-in and their aversion to tinkering. Other than that, I think what they are offering is rather good.

I got a Macbook Pro as work machine in late 2014, having used a Thinkpad before. 1. Mac OS is just too unfamiliar. It starts with the keyboard layout, which I reverted to Windows-style after I went crazy trying to find the square brackets. (Which, probably for aesthetics, they didn't bother to print ont he keyboard.) 2. Mac OS's poor multi-monitor support regularly drives me crazy. To their credit, they have ironed o…

The multimonitor support has fairly recently become passable. It's hard to imagine that it took more than a decade to do that. It used to be almost entirely useless. I think it's a case of overthinking it and trying not-to-be-windows that made it take so long.

I'm not sure it's correct now, but at least it's useful.

The Unix outdatedness is really annoying sometimes. I wouldn't even mind running some kind of big update after getting a new machine and waiting a couple hours for things to improve. The number of Macs I've seen with Linux VMs running on them just to get up-to-date things on them is really unfortunate.

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Post by ceocoder »

imron wrote: post #107

> if you use multiple macOS machines, Apple will now sync your desktops between them, too Oh No. Please no. If I had to come up with a list of 5 things Apple is really bad at, sync would be one of them. I've basically stopped syncing my phone and desktop because of all the duplicated calendar entries syncing creates. It's something I have absolutely zero trust in them to do properly.

I really hope this is an Opt-In feature rather than Opt-Out. Out-of-sync iMessage threads, bizarre chicken-or-egg "Approve Keychain for this device from your other device" (what device? I never approved it in the first place - JUST STAY AWAY FROM MY PASSWORDS, I'm perfectly happy with 1Password + Dropbox sync), and my personal pet peeve is Spaces. I used to love OS X Spaces as with really easy to use keyboard shortcuts, Apple got rid of around Lion and replaced it with mediocre "workspaces" with very little keyboard friendly-ness - TotalSpaces helps fill the void, but once has to disable sip in order to use it.

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

partiallypro wrote: post #311
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #301

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It's already a great desktop OS. And they did announce some things (file system) that will make it even better.

OSX used to be ahead of the curve though compared to Windows, now...it's falling behind. I think that's where people's frustrations come from.

I dislike Windows so much. It feels pieced together from so many kludgy parts... Anyway, I just don't see it. :)

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Post by kchoudhu »

ninkendo wrote: post #395
kchoudhu wrote: post #180

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Why would they touch GPLv3 code when perfectly good BSD tools available from FreeBSD?

If you're being serious here: bash is IMO the most glaringly old utility you get in an OSX install, and it's GPLv3.

There's more to a userland than the shell, and there are plenty of shells out there that are not encumbered by GPLv3.
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