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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by 0942v8653 »

M4v3R wrote: post #187
kybernetyk wrote: post #157

I'm disappointed. After them announcing the subscription pricing changes, paid search results, etc. in a press conference because "we can't fit all into the keynote" I expected more. Instead we got 20 minutes of adults playing with emojis. Not what I would expect from a developer conference keynote. /edit: Thanks for the hint to watch the State of the Union video.

Wait for the Platforms State of the Union video, it will be probably available in few hours on Apple's developers website [1]. It's basically another keynote, but more developer oriented. https://developer.apple.com/videos/ Edit: mayoff beat me to it :)

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/102/

Not available yet, but when it is, it will be at this link.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by [deleted] »

tiglionabbit wrote: post #396
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #387

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Well, for Messenger to work you can only talk to people on the same social network. Honestly, MMS/SMS, and email seem to work fine for me. Though I am a little bummed that we're not all on an end-to-end encrypted XMPP standard communication by now...

> Well, for Messenger to work you can only talk to people on the same social network. You can casually install Facebook Messenger on your device. You can't casually have a second phone.

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by basch »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #387
izacus wrote: post #239

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To be fair, it's probably stomping iMessage because you can also talk to people who didn't buy the same electronics brand.

Well, for Messenger to work you can only talk to people on the same social network. Honestly, MMS/SMS, and email seem to work fine for me. Though I am a little bummed that we're not all on an end-to-end encrypted XMPP standard communication by now...

you can use messenger with just your phone number and no account. you dont need a facebook account.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by digi_owl »

snuxoll wrote: post #400
Analemma_ wrote: post #236

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> Linux, please take off. Sorry, no can do. We have to complete the process of breaking everything with systemd, then as soon as that's done rewrite KDE and Gnome from scratch again .

I swear, I must be the only person on the planet satisfied with the current state of systemd and GNOME 3. Fedora 23 is my main workstation OS and I have the least amount of friction getting my work done on it compared to either Windows or macOS these days. Then again, I mostly spend my day in IntelliJ, DataGrip, PyCharm, Firefox, a terminal, and a Windows VM for when I'm forced to open Visual Studio.

Well Fedora is basically systemd central, so no surprises there. Frankly if it continues the way it has, every distro becomes Fedora with the serial numbers filed off...

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by derefr »

elif wrote: post #190
mozumder wrote: post #143

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> Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! This is a keynote for the entire conference. They wouldn't mention something as trivial as this. Only major items get mentioned. The small features are mentioned throughout the week in the conference sessions.

Yeah, nothing says major like 10 minutes on text effects and 5 minutes of an exec playing her ipod for a room of people.

WWDC is a conference for developers, but Apple's developers are almost all B2C developers, so the keynote has a specific purpose related to that.

The keynote is basically there to prove to Apple's B2C developers that the "Apple platform" will still be a viable market to sell to for the next year, such that it's worth investing time into to learn all their proprietary platform stuff at the very same conference.

Apple proves their market-viability going forward, by demonstrating all the consumer-facing features that will attract consumers to their devices, where they can then spend money on the B2C developers' apps.

This is also why they screen ads: they're showing the developers their strategy for attracting customers, to buoy up their faith in Apple's market strategy. Apple creating impressive ad copy for their platform directly affects your bottom line as an Apple B2C app dev—so you want to see that they've done it.

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Note that all this stands in stark contrast to Microsoft's strategy: they love their developers too, but those mainly consist of B2B developers. And you don't win over B2B devs by proving that your platform will attract home users. You win over B2B devs by showing all the Enterprise-y features which your platform will use to guarantee the Enterprise-y deployments the B2B devs sell to; and how it will easily integrate with everything customers already have, such that there won't be an "incompatible" ecosystem of boxen serving some purpose that grows on its own rather than being absorbed into a larger Active Directory domain.

This is, for example, why Windows Server 2016 is all about virtualization: the latest incompatible-cluster tumor growing in the middle of what are otherwise Microsoft shop is private "virtual cloud" infrastructure using VMWare/Citrix/RedHat VM host appliances. If Windows can't integrate with those, acting as their peer or manager or SAN or whatever, then those machines will take over the datacenter and Windows will just become the thing being run in a VM on them.)

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by ben_jones »

derefr wrote: post #390
grey-area wrote: post #193

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iOS devices brought in revenue in Q1 2016 of around 58B, vs 7B for macOS - even iPad sales alone are greater than macOS devices. You can expect this focus on iOS to continue, or even accelerate, as they focus on making more money from all those iOS devices (like driving adoption of iCloud, Apple Music and other monthly subscriptions). http://www.statista.com/statistics/382136/quarterly-segments...

You could say that macOS was responsible for a good amount of the iOS revenue, insofar as 1. devs using Macs are a lot more likely to spontaneously decide to try developing iOS apps, and 2. having more iOS apps sells more iOS devices. If Apple only sold iOS devices and you had to develop for them from e.g. Windows, I don't think the app ecosystem would have been nearly as large—making getting one a rather less attrac…

I got my first mac product (mbp) a few months ago, I've dabbled in OSX development but still feel guilty for not trying iOS dev yet, despite not even owning an iPhone.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by ihuman »

hexasquid wrote: post #206
unit91 wrote: post #47

This will finally alleviate the awkward pronunciation ambiguity. To this day, I'm not sure whether to say "OS ex" or "OS ten".

Is it Mac Oh Ess or does it rhyme with GladOS?

Mac Oh Ess, like iOS, tvOS, and watchOS.

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Post by derefr »

izacus wrote: post #172
coldtea wrote: post #158

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> Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! I don't think they ever added features for deprecated technologies / limitations. The assumption going forward (and for the last several years) from all players is always on / cheap broadband, not "metered connections".

How is connecting your Mac to iPhone / other phone LTE hotspot a "deprecated" techonolgy? Having App Store download updates over a limited dataplan or even killing your non-perfect-signal HSDPA connection with updates is still utterly annoying.

Metered connections are the "deprecated" technology. Apple really does assume a world where the marginal MB of data is effectively free. (See, for example, the Wi-Fi Assist feature.)

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Post by DasIch »

tehabe wrote: post #272
jaxondu wrote: post #237

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The doc https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/docum...

Apple lists a few limitations for APFS, one being: "Filenames are currently case-sensitive only." My thought: hey, that is a feature!

HFS+ can be configured to be both case-sensitive and not (the default). So in that sense it's a regression.

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Post by jedberg »

leogiertz wrote: post #345
jedberg wrote: post #249

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Yep. And it has a cap too. In fact, that cap is so low that if you max out your connection for just over two hours you'll be over the cap for the month.

Seems like AT&T are increasing the caps and adding the option to have an "unlimited" version: http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/03/att-boosts-data-caps...

That calculation was based on the new "increased" cap.

And yes, for $30 you can have unlimited bandwidth. And for $30 more you can opt out of them scanning and recording your activity for ad targeting.

So now the price has literally doubled to have decent internet. How can they get away with that? Lack of competition.

And that is what this thread is really about. Until there is some competition, we won't see ubiquitous, cheap, high-speed internet.

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