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Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by smnscu »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #94
jedanbik wrote: post #78

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3D Touch is to iOS as the Option key is to macOS. Hold down the Option key and click on Airport or volume control to see what I mean in macOS. It gives you more information, and the information it provides is information you didn't necessarily need to have without holding down the Option key. In airport, with the option key held, you see options to generate a wireless diagnostics report. Without the option key held,…

I've been using macs for I guess a decade or so now and I still have no idea what the option key is for. When a keyboard shortcut is like ^+⌥+F6 I just mash buttons until it works. Why do they use a different symbol on the button than in the UI? I really have no desire to learn the seven different buttons in Mac OS and I wish application authors would stop using them so they could someday simplify the keyboard. I don…

Well, then you haven't been using macs for a decade, but for a year, times ten (and that's totally fine, unless you're leaving arrogant comments on HN about "why we tolerate this or that"). I've been using macs for about 5 years and I still learn new useful features and shortcuts, and having 3 modifier keys is so useful (e.g. emacs + iterm2 + spectacle) that I can't see myself going back to linux/similar. ETA: also, brew is lovely for people who want a stupid simple package manager

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Post by kirykl »

prrrnd wrote: post #15

Am i the only one thinking that Steve Jobs would have refused most of the things that were introduced this morning? Apple sure has changed over the years.

Difference was how Steve sold it vs the two presenting iMessage today

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

sidcool wrote: post #13
overcast wrote: post #7

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Does that matter for some reason?

It does, because when Google did it in past, and they did, Apple zealots ripped on them.

And right now the Google zealots are doing what?

I swear it's going to take forever for the last half dozen zealots on either side to just shut up.

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Post by rarepostinlurkr »

kylec wrote: post #62
k-mcgrady wrote: post #52

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Considering the number of people that use other messaging apps these features are what people want. Apple can't just ignore that.

Why not leave these things to third party messaging apps, keyboards, and integrations? Why does it all have to be first party?

Did you miss the part where they indicated that Messages was the most used app on iOS? Why would they abandon that experience for their customers and leave it up to a 3rd party to control?

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Post by epynonymous »

is it just me or has apple really lost its advantage with the departure of steve jobs, i mean johnny ives is still there, but they seem to be doing a mediocre job, dont get me wrong, i really liked the new macbook when it came out, and i own an apple watch (more of a fashion accessory more than anything else), but maps, siri, music, photos, etc seem like minor increments. blow me away apple like hou did with the first intel based macs, or how about when mac os x first came out, the very first ipod, we need more makers, not an operations guy

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Post by bowlingx »

Finally they managed to remove the weird intelligent selection behavior in safari!!! (The one that unpredictable marks blocks or the whole website). Thank you apple :)

They also ignore any viewport meta data so you can always zoom. My Cordova app doesn't like this :( I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically

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Post by matt-attack »

dcgoss wrote: post #74
wodenokoto wrote: post #41

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The problem is not discoverability, the problem is certainty that the counter part can receive these things. I already find the SMS app on iOS confusing. Am I sending a paid SMS or a free message? I dare say one of the major advantages of messaging apps in general is the certainty that the receiver will receive the message in the same shape as the sender send it. With MMS you never know if the picture can be opened,…

Green bubble = SMS. Blue bubble = iMessage (data only, doesn't count towards text limits). I would assume the app would only let you use the new features with other iMessage users.

Even better, you can tell before you click "Send" whether the message will be green or blue, by looking at the color of the send button. Kinda nice, you can actually just enter any phone number in the "To:" field and wait a second, and check the color of the button. This will tell you instantly whether a given phone number is for an iPhone or not. Kinda neat.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by matt-attack »

stevep98 wrote: post #67
drinchev wrote: post #30

iOS 10. 10 Features that I think they had a hard time to convince the audience that were so important. I've been using iOS since v3 and it's going ^2 complicated every year. Come on guys, nobody expects that you can deliver a revolution with every WWDC. Just don't make the interface more complicated. Siri, 3d touch, home kit? I barely know anyone using those and everyone these days has an iPhone. The focus is shifted…

I find Siri useful for certain things. 'Set a timer for 20 minutes' is faster for me than using the clock app. 'Navigate to the nearest gas station' is faster. Setting reminders is usually faster with Siri. Especially geofences ones. Finding pictures in a location is much easier with Siri.. "Find pictures at Lake Tahoe" The main problem is that you have to remember what you can do.

"Set a timer for 20 minutes" is heavenly. No, extra bloat like, "Shall I start it now?", it just starts ticking as soon as you as for it.

Every time you feed a parking meter, I recommend this feature.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by ninkendo »

throwanem wrote: post #43
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

That's confusing as hell though. How do I know whether the app I'm using has a handle for audio playback? It makes it rather a guessing game what's going to happen when you use the volume button.

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Post by lepht »

JadeNB wrote: post #128
andrewla wrote: post #101

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Still buzzes when it's on mute; in a quiet room at night that's still more than I want. If they just made it configurable like other device sounds I would be more than satisfied.

Huh—my iPad doesn't buzz. I guess it's (a) an iPhone thing, (b) a new thing, or (c) a bug with which I am lucky to be afflicted.

"Buzzing" here meaning vibrating -- the iPads don't have vibrating notifications at all, or the required vibrating mechanism.
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