Developer Jobs

#1

Post by groovytime » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:10 PM UTC

Is this really what getting a job as a developer is coming to?

Just started looking at job listings and this is common (actual quotes): "Ideally someone who lives and breathes code", "does development side work", "practices new technologies at home", "likes to code all day everyday", "attend and present at meetups", "commits to open source"

On top of that a majority of listings have something like this one: "Experience with many of the following: Eclipse, Pig, Hive, SVN, Git, JBoss, WebSphere, WebLogic, Tomcat, Apache, Linux, SBT, JUnit, Maven, ANT, Hudson/Jenkins, JMeter, JProfiler, JIRA, Bugzilla, Agile, Java, Android, Scala, Groovy, Hadoop, Apache Spark, Akka, J2EE, EJB3, JPA, Hibernate, Struts2, Play Framework, Spray Framework, Grails, Spring, XML, JSON, XStream, Proficient in HTML, CSS and JavaScript"

Re: Developer Jobs

#2

Post by smt88 » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:15 PM UTC

Unlike most jobs, software development is in high demand. Pay, flexibility, and company culture can be great.

Like most jobs, software development isn't fun most of the time for most people. When a job is really fun, other people will do it for low pay, competition will increase, and average pay will drop (see: writing, music, non-pro sports). So in some ways, you won't find a job that is fun to a wide variety of people and also high-paying.

That said, some people want to code all day, and then they'll do unpaid side projects after the work day ends. Even if you're not one of them, you're competing with them, so maybe this isn't the best type of job for you.

Re: Developer Jobs

#3

Post by ramtatatam » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:32 PM UTC

I love this long list of "nice to have" :-) So true, so common.

I was/am on both sides of hiring process and must say in the end everything boils down to motivation. You may find it surprising it is quite a challenge to find people who are motivated in the right way, who will go extra mile if required (not that every day is an extra mile!)

In the same time recruiters had gone so lazy these days, I get tons of emails with job offers that do not fit my skill set (which is openly available on LinkedIn).

Re: Developer Jobs

#4

Post by groovytime » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:41 PM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #2

Unlike most jobs, software development is in high demand. Pay, flexibility, and company culture can be great. Like most jobs, software development isn't fun most of the time for most people. When a job is really fun, other people will do it for low pay, competition will increase, and average pay will drop (see: writing, music, non-pro sports). So in some ways, you won't find a job that is fun to a wide variety of peo…

Work is not fun for most people. As well, fun level certainly does not drive pay ha ha.