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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #257
izacus wrote: post #239

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To be fair, it's probably stomping iMessage because you can also talk to people who didn't buy the same electronics brand.

I think a bigger reason it's doing so well is because you don't need a phone number to contact someone. I have several friends who I first talked to on FB Messenger before I had their phone number. Their wifi/data-based group messaging is also far superior to MMS groups.

You don't need to use a phone number for iMessage and FaceTime, IIRC it also supports email addresses.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by tehabe »

jaxondu wrote: post #237
pilif wrote: post #213

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They did introduce a new file system - it just wasn't part of the keynote.

The doc https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/docum...

Apple lists a few limitations for APFS, one being: "Filenames are currently case-sensitive only."

My thought: hey, that is a feature!

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Post by banach »

fooey wrote: post #197
jasonshen wrote: post #118

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> As someone who does not use or want Apple's mobile devices My guess is that most of Mac users do want/use Apple mobile devices, and that in fact the majority of their computing time is now on those devices so it makes sense that the team would focus heavily on the interface and overlap between iOS / MacOS.

Only reason I use OSX is that's what I was issued at work. I don't own an iOS device, never have, and don't see myself ever getting one in the future. All of my personal mobile devices are Android, and all my desktops/laptops are Windows.

As someone who has used Windows, Mac and Linux as both personal and work OS for > 5 years each, I'm curious to know how come (you don't see yourself getting one in the future). The two things I have against the Apple platform compared to Microsoft and Google are Apple's bias toward lock-in and their aversion to tinkering. Other than that, I think what they are offering is rather good.

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Post by sdkmvx »

jarjoura wrote: post #253
oakenclast wrote: post #134

I've been using Apple operating systems for most of my computing, since the Apple IIe. I started using OS X in 2001. Every since the release of 10.7, I have just been disappointed with their releases. Now that they are releasing major updates on a yearly press-release driven schedule, their quality has suffered. And their drive towards making the desktop more like iOS seems to cater more to non-technical consumers th…

What version of Mac OS was ever meant for more technical consumers though? Apple's DNA has always been consumer product focused in everything they build.

Obviously they were never exclusively marketed towards technical users, but Apple was definitely targeting the UNIX workstation and multimedia workstation markets in the early 2000s.

See http://www.brainmapping.org/MarkCohen/UNIXad.pdf

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Post by rarepostinlurkr »

protomyth wrote: post #137
School-Cotton wrote: post #75

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You can be sick of that if you want, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the point I was making, which is that it should be possible to disable cloud storage on your Mac, since you can do anything on your own device. Whether you can do that with a reboot or not, whether you need to disable SIP, etc., isn't really germane to what I was talking about and I feel like you just wanted to take the opportunity to…

I don't think I should have to disable security to do things that are not security concerns. I also doubt the average user regards root as a solution. I am not hopeful given what was said during the prior beta, that disabling SIP will always be an option. > I feel like you just wanted to take the opportunity to rant. Was this line necessary?

How is running an account as true root not a security concern?

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Post by tjl »

Philipp__ wrote: post #203
Etheryte wrote: post #41

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There's a sysconfig to turn off nearly everything in OS X if you're comfy with the CLI, I doubt Siri would be any different. It will probably be a usual GUI switch though, due to privacy laws.

I know. Very familiar with CLI. I spwnd 80% of time on my MacBook in iTerm. :) I was pretty disappointed by this WWDC. Any info on next XCode version?

The beta for XCode 8 is up which includes Swift 3 and support for iOS 10.

Before you decide you're disappointed, wait for the Developer State of the Union later today and the other sessions. There's interesting things like an "Apple File System" session. It looks like the beta for the file system will be in macOS Sierra and come out officially in 2017. You won't be able to use it as a boot drive (probably a safe precaution) and it has a few other restrictions, but it's a good start.

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Post by tjl »

kylec wrote: post #268
ejdyksen wrote: post #195

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They typically leave the keynote to high level features, or really big developer-focused features. However, you're in luck; looks like Apple is introducing a new file system: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/#/details/701

This is huge! I can understand that they wouldn't want to devote a lot of time to it, but I can't believe this wasn't even mentioned in the keynote. It is a developer conference after all.

They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.

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Post by kylec »

Philipp__ wrote: post #24

I hope there will be option to disable Siri. Don't want turned on mic 24/7.

On the iPhone, the always-on "Hey Siri" activation is actually local on the device. You can test this out by activating Airplane Mode and saying "Hey Siri". The interface comes up, then says that you can't use Siri because you're offline.

This means that Apple isn't listening to you 24/7, only when Siri is activated. Sure, sometimes it's activated accidentally and might overhear something you didn't want it to, but those times are pretty rare.

If Apple introduces a "Hey Siri" feature on the Mac (which it's unclear about given the fact that in the demo Craig activated Siri by clicking on the icon, then later by pressing a key on the keyboard), I expect it would operate in the same way.

Finally, I'm sure there's a software setting you can use to disable Siri if you really don't want it to be activated.

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Post by tjl »

namsral wrote: post #248
ejdyksen wrote: post #195

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They typically leave the keynote to high level features, or really big developer-focused features. However, you're in luck; looks like Apple is introducing a new file system: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/#/details/701

I think I can hear John Siracusa cheering from the other side of the pond.

https://twitter.com/siracusa/status/742435975079419905

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Post by rarepostinlurkr »

Etheryte wrote: post #31
isseu wrote: post #21

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what happens if the app already have tabs inside? Like sublime for example

They meant all apps made by Apple, not random apps, as far as I could tell.

It's not only Apple apps.
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