Apple File System

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Post by sirn » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:40 PM UTC

Re: Apple File System

#2

Post by cpr » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:45 PM UTC

Siracusa will finally be happy. ;-)

Sounds an awful like like ZFS (zero-cost clones, read-only snapshots) but could it be? I would imagine they'd start from scratch to due IP issues.

Clearly this is immature technology they want to get out for testing/evaluation before it's fully adopted even into their own products. (See below.)

- - - from the release notes - - -

As a developer preview of this technology, there are currently several limitations:

Startup Disk: APFS volumes cannot currently be used as a startup disk.

Case Sensitivity: Filenames are currently case-sensitive only.

Time Machine: Time Machine backups are not currently supported.

FileVault: APFS volumes cannot currently be encrypted using FileVault.

Fusion Drive: Fusion Drives cannot currently use APFS.

Re: Apple File System

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Post by mailslot » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:46 PM UTC

Another proprietary filesystem? I was really hoping they'd adopt ZFS fully.

Re: Apple File System

#4

Post by partiallogic » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:47 PM UTC

Paging @siracusa

Re: Apple File System

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Post by xd1936 » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:48 PM UTC

> It is optimized for Flash/SSD storage and features strong encryption, copy-on-write metadata, space sharing, cloning for files and directories, snapshots, fast directory sizing, atomic safe-save primitives, and improved file system fundamentals.

\o/ Hallelujah, something modern!

Re: Apple File System

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Post by oneeyedpigeon » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:48 PM UTC

partiallogic wrote: post #4

Paging @siracusa

And he said it would never happen!

Re: Apple File System

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Post by noblethrasher » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:50 PM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #6

partiallogic wrote: post #4

Paging @siracusa

And he said it would never happen!

Actually, he said he thought that it would happen next year (2017).

Re: Apple File System

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Post by jasonjei » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:50 PM UTC

mailslot wrote: post #3

Another proprietary filesystem? I was really hoping they'd adopt ZFS fully.

Apple says they intend to open-source the file system in the docs.

Open Source: "An open source implementation is not available at this time. Apple plans to document and publish the APFS volume format when Apple File System is released in 2017."

Re: Apple File System

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Post by ulfw » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:50 PM UTC

Shipping in 2017? So it won't even be ready for Sierra?

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Post by quantumhobbit » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 7:51 PM UTC

xd1936 wrote: post #5

> It is optimized for Flash/SSD storage and features strong encryption, copy-on-write metadata, space sharing, cloning for files and directories, snapshots, fast directory sizing, atomic safe-save primitives, and improved file system fundamentals. \o/ Hallelujah, something modern!

I was excited to until I read the limitations section. Can't be used as the startup disk and doesn't work with time machine.

Hopefully this with change in the next macOs release.