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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by izacus »

mitchty wrote: post #177
izacus wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Metal is a proprietary 3D technology ported from iOS. Apple chose to do another closed tech instead of adopting Vulkan or fixing their slow OpenGL implementation. If you look at the numbers, you'll see that Metal is about 30% faster than OpenGL on OS X, which is interesting because OpenGL is about 30% slower on OS X than on Windows. Which means they're forcing developers to use their proprietary API to get comparable…

Metal came out before Vulkan did, not sure you can couch that as them choosing to do another closed tech. How is Metal any different from DirectX/Direct3D in this regard?

It's not.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by stephenr »

waterphone wrote: post #117
0942v8653 wrote: post #103

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Doesn't SIP cause issues with the TiVoization clause? I guess I'm not an expert on this, but it's possible Apple wants to leave the possibility open of making SIP mandatory.

An OS with mandatory SIP will be the point I stop upgrading. I'm fine with optional features like this, but the instant it becomes mandatory and can't be bypassed I'm gone.

Bye.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by grey-area »

izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

iOS devices brought in revenue in Q1 2016 of around 58B, vs 7B for macOS - even iPad sales alone are greater than macOS devices. You can expect this focus on iOS to continue, or even accelerate, as they focus on making more money from all those iOS devices (like driving adoption of iCloud, Apple Music and other monthly subscriptions).

http://www.statista.com/statistics/382136/quarterly-segments...

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by StevePerkins »

zymhan wrote: post #67
peterbraden wrote: post #45

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Is there a way to replace all of them in one move?

You can't really replace the underlying tools, you'd want to install the new versions in a different folder and update your Environment to point to those executables. EDIT: I'm wrong, didn't realize homebrew-dupes actually is meant to replace the OS X utils.

So effectively, it's only one step better than installing Cygwin on a Windows machine?

Can someone please remind me again why the MacBook is such a preffered machine for software development? For years I've been told, "You get a shell!", and "It's UNIX under the covers", etc.

Except that the shell userspace is antiquated, and the UNIX flavor is BSD rather than Linux. Meaning that I'm just as out-of-sync with my target server as if I were on a Windows machine, I still have to run Docker through a VM layer, etc.

Don't get me wrong, the hardware is excellant. But the software is even more locked-down and less customizable than the MS world... and just skipping the middle man and installing Linux directly is a 10x better developer experience than both.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by ejdyksen »

izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

They typically leave the keynote to high level features, or really big developer-focused features.

However, you're in luck; looks like Apple is introducing a new file system:

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/#/details/701

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by leogiertz »

hackaflocka wrote: post #167
coldtea wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! I don't think they ever added features for deprecated technologies / limitations. The assumption going forward (and for the last several years) from all players is always on / cheap broadband, not "metered connections".

My relatives in /another country/ are on metered connections for everything (home internet, mobile, etc.). It's not a smart assumption for Apple to make.

I disagree, it's a very valid assumption to make given that mobile data quotas are increasing and metered broadband connections are most likely going to be a thing of the past.

Edit: Also, Apples targets the premium segment of the market. Who are less likely to have such limitations.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by fooey »

jasonshen wrote: post #118
bobbyi_settv wrote: post #99

It seems like more and more of the work on MacOS is dedicated to propping up iOS instead of simply making a great desktop OS. As someone who does not use or want Apple's mobile devices, it's been hard to get excited about these last few releases.

> As someone who does not use or want Apple's mobile devices My guess is that most of Mac users do want/use Apple mobile devices, and that in fact the majority of their computing time is now on those devices so it makes sense that the team would focus heavily on the interface and overlap between iOS / MacOS.

Only reason I use OSX is that's what I was issued at work.

I don't own an iOS device, never have, and don't see myself ever getting one in the future.

All of my personal mobile devices are Android, and all my desktops/laptops are Windows.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by [deleted] »

mitchty wrote: post #177
izacus wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Metal is a proprietary 3D technology ported from iOS. Apple chose to do another closed tech instead of adopting Vulkan or fixing their slow OpenGL implementation. If you look at the numbers, you'll see that Metal is about 30% faster than OpenGL on OS X, which is interesting because OpenGL is about 30% slower on OS X than on Windows. Which means they're forcing developers to use their proprietary API to get comparable…

Metal came out before Vulkan did, not sure you can couch that as them choosing to do another closed tech. How is Metal any different from DirectX/Direct3D in this regard?

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by nileshtrivedi »

coldtea wrote: post #158
izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

> Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! I don't think they ever added features for deprecated technologies / limitations. The assumption going forward (and for the last several years) from all players is always on / cheap broadband, not "metered connections".

Not really. The whole progressive web apps movement is based on the assumption that poor/expensive connectivity is here to stay for a long time.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by geophile »

542458 wrote: post #127
27182818284 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use the say command in the Terminal you get the definitive answer.

Spoiler alert for anybody without access to a mac right now: $ say "OS X" pronounces it as "OS Ten".

Mine says "os ex". (10.11.5)
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