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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by zanny »

dleslie wrote: post #80
0942v8653 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely feel this pain too, but: They can't upgrade to recent GNU tools (bash is the one most people complain about) because of the GPLv3. And I feel their developer manpower is better spent on fixing OS bugs at this point. These issues are better fixed by developers less encumbered by the closed-sourceness of OS X.

What about the GPLv3 prevents them from using GNU user space tools?

Nothing prevents them, they chose not to. It would restrict them from shipping GPLv3 versions in the future if they tivoize the platform further, which they almost certainly intend to do, its kind of Apple's thing nowadays.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by otterley »

reacharavindh wrote: post #12

Copy/paste across iPhone and Mac is very useful. All the other features are Meh. I really don't want to be that guy talking to my Mac at work. I can't be sure that all my questions to Siri are not awkward to speak out. Would have been great to have a textual interface though. You know that Keyboard thingy that is always with a Mac?!

> I really don't want to be that guy talking to my Mac at work

What about your disabled colleague?

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by 0942v8653 »

jkeler wrote: post #68
0942v8653 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely feel this pain too, but: They can't upgrade to recent GNU tools (bash is the one most people complain about) because of the GPLv3. And I feel their developer manpower is better spent on fixing OS bugs at this point. These issues are better fixed by developers less encumbered by the closed-sourceness of OS X.

> They can't upgrade to recent GNU tools because of the GPLv3. They can but it is their choice not to use GPLv3 tools.

Doesn't SIP cause issues with the TiVoization clause? I guess I'm not an expert on this, but it's possible Apple wants to leave the possibility open of making SIP mandatory.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by zodiakzz »

sigzero wrote: post #32
merb wrote: post #26

wow. what a great innovation. rename the damn thing and auto unlock. i hoped for new stuff. even a /bin/bash upgrade would be nice. I mean: GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin15) Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. but, no. all we get every year are either 3d icons, or flat icons, round corners, new name...

homebrew is your friend. They are not going to upgrade anything that has gone to GPL3.

Any reason why they can't fork it and port all the new stuff? I'd imagine for legal reasons they will have to hire devs who haven't looked at the GNU source code.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#105

Post by harryh »

izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

I would settle for fixing the bug where I have to restart Finder to rebuild the connection every time my NAS drive spins down.

Also the combination of screensharing to a headless MacMini and then AirPlaying to an Apple TV produces some fairly loathsome results.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by nacs »

salzig wrote: post #91
CGamesPlay wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is fair but I also struggle to think of a situation where my Mac and my Apple Watch get stolen and I'm not aware of it in time to lock my accounts.

maybe you're aware, but not able to do something. Backpack with Macbook, Watch and Phone stolen. What would you do?

Macbook sure, phone maybe, but why would your watch be in your backpack?

Also, the watch automatically enters a locked state when its off your wrist.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by imron »

> if you use multiple macOS machines, Apple will now sync your desktops between them, too

Oh No. Please no.

If I had to come up with a list of 5 things Apple is really bad at, sync would be one of them.

I've basically stopped syncing my phone and desktop because of all the duplicated calendar entries syncing creates.

It's something I have absolutely zero trust in them to do properly.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by otterley »

salzig wrote: post #94
matthewmacleod wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably. The Apple Watch locks when removed from the wrist, and required subsequent authentication before it can be used for payments. There's minimal risk here.

I dont own one. Does it look when removed? Is unlocking required for all, or can i disable it?

It locks automatically when you remove it from your wrist.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by adamnemecek »

harryh wrote: post #105
izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

I would settle for fixing the bug where I have to restart Finder to rebuild the connection every time my NAS drive spins down. Also the combination of screensharing to a headless MacMini and then AirPlaying to an Apple TV produces some fairly loathsome results.

Oh that's a Finder bug? I was blaming Synology but I'm basing that on nothing.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by matthewmacleod »

salzig wrote: post #94
matthewmacleod wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably. The Apple Watch locks when removed from the wrist, and required subsequent authentication before it can be used for payments. There's minimal risk here.

I dont own one. Does it look when removed? Is unlocking required for all, or can i disable it?

I also don't own one, but my understanding is that:

- a passcode is required to use features like Apple Pay

- the watch can be configured such that it only has to be unlocked once, until it is removed from the wrist/rebooted/manually locked

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