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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#81

The good news is that I might not have to listen to people call it "Mac OS Ex" anymore. I'm hoping there's a bunch of new APIs hiding in there allowing ISVs to do cool stuff. Because the new version, meh, don't care about Siri much and the rest of the stuff is window dressing, IMO. Maybe some improvements for Xcode, testing tools?

I have never in RL heard anyone call it "OS ten"

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#82
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Will they update the unix layer? A lot of the CLI tools there are positively prehistoric. Maybe while they're at it they can add a real package manager too.

Mostly not, due to licensing. The GNU utils that transitioned to GPL v3 (eg Bash) are kind of stuck there in 2007.

I don't understand. What is it about the licensing of _user space_ tools that prevent their being used?

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#84

> Also new is what Apple calls the universal clipboard. This gives users access to a single clipboard that works across iOS and macOS I hope this only works when the 2 devices are on the same wifi network or have bluetooth enabled, rather than by sending every single thing I copy to an Apple server...

Complete and utter speculation, but if this is implemented well I imagine it is done the same as iMessages, with end to end encryption to all your devices. (Which, last I read about it, has its flaws and isn't a perfect system against state level actors, but it's not the worst.)

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#85
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I definitely feel this pain too, but: They can't upgrade to recent GNU tools (bash is the one most people complain about) because of the GPLv3. And I feel their developer manpower is better spent on fixing OS bugs at this point. These issues are better fixed by developers less encumbered by the closed-sourceness of OS X.

What about the GPLv3 prevents them from using GNU user space tools?

The GPLv3 has clauses in it that opens up a new load of legal questions for Apple that they'd rather avoid. I just wish that Apple would move to using less encumbered shell that is actively being developed, like pdksh or zsh.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#86

> Also new is what Apple calls the universal clipboard. This gives users access to a single clipboard that works across iOS and macOS I hope this only works when the 2 devices are on the same wifi network or have bluetooth enabled, rather than by sending every single thing I copy to an Apple server...

Complete and utter speculation, but if this is implemented well I imagine it is done the same as iMessages, with end to end encryption to all your devices. (Which, last I read about it, has its flaws and isn't a perfect system against state level actors, but it's not the worst.)

Yeah, that would make sense.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#88

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What do BSD distros use?

You got to be a bit more specific. --- edit --- They all have their own version of the "GNU core utilities". BSD make instead of GNU make. less(1) is dual-licensed (I think) so everybody uses the same (OpenBSD has forked it recently though). FreeBSD's default shell is tcsh, OpenBSD uses a fork of pdksh. If you want bash then you have to install it from ports. Most of OS X's userland comes from FreeBSD (except for bas…

Sorry, I meant two things: License used for their tools and if they used any tools that aren't 'GNU specific' at all.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

#90
post #76

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It's not like iOS where everything is locked down. You are root and can do anything you want on your machine. It should be pretty trivial to prevent the cloud storage stuff from running.

> You are root and can do anything you want on your machine. That was never my experience on an Apple device. Now my Linux boxes yes, but Apple and Windows no way. Especially with the Mac App Store and the user Interface being so locked down by Apple. Many things are hidden by Apple.

What specifically have you tried to do on an OS X computer that you couldn't?
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