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Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by simonswords82 »

Sylos wrote: post #287
simonswords82 wrote: post #115

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Just because one team on Windows 10 made a huge mistake doesn't mean the entirety of Microsoft is full of people looking to fill the world with dark patterns. They employ about 50,000 engineers last time I checked...

If this would have been a mistake, the executives at Microsoft would have heard of it by now, no matter how disconnected they are from the world, and then they would have reverted it. Which they didn't.

Have you any idea how difficult it is to revert something like that? It doesn't sound like a trivial Cmd + Z to me. It sounds like a lot of work with limited upside for the team that implemented it. Nobody likes undoing their own work...

Anyway, I'm not saying it wasn't a dick move by Microsoft. I just don't think it's representative of their entire company.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by simonswords82 »

cm2187 wrote: post #146
simonswords82 wrote: post #115

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Just because one team on Windows 10 made a huge mistake doesn't mean the entirety of Microsoft is full of people looking to fill the world with dark patterns. They employ about 50,000 engineers last time I checked...

I don't think it was a "mistake" by an isolated team. I don't think the Windows team would change that fundamentally Microsoft's core product without the management's OK.

I agree that a manager somewhere in the organisation did OK this change but that's one person. I don't believe he or she is representative of the hundred thousand people that Microsoft employ.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by mfoy_ »

kens wrote: post #366
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The forced updates are something that's been long overdue. Imagine a world without old versions of IE that your webapps still have to support because else you're losing 10% of your users.

Forced updates have destroyed the good feelings I had about Windows 10 and made it likely my next computer won't be Windows. Specifically, it's the unexpected reboot that infuriates me. I was running a long simulation overnight and in the morning my computer had rebooted and greets me with "Hi. We've got some new features to get excited about." Spontaneous reboots are NOT OK.

Or you have a fullscreen program open, say a video game or a movie. And bam. Computer just shuts down without warning. What the heck? Installing Updates. :(

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by simonswords82 »

tremon wrote: post #190
simonswords82 wrote: post #152

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Microsoft employs fifty thousand engineers. A group of them fucked up with that Windows 10 debacle. I reckon on the whole Microsoft very much do care about their reputation.

So you're arguing that it was just "a rogue employee" that made that decision and executed it?

No, I'm saying that a group of individuals in the company made the decision, including managers and perhaps senior execs. It was not a board level decision, at least imo.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by JetSpiegel »

petercooper wrote: post #50
curiousgal wrote: post #47

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What market is exactly that? I still have no idea what Linkedin is all about. Edit: Yes, keep downvoting me, asking questions about LinkedIn clearly doesn't add to the discussion. sigh

Recruiting. It's huge.

I read this in Trump's voice.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by foota »

vitd wrote: post #522
g051051 wrote: post #496

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> If you saw a LinkedIn profile that you thought would make a good addition to your team, would you not reach out to that person just because you found them on LinkedIn? I'd never approach someone cold like that. >If someone approached you and said "I saw your profile on LinkedIn and I like what your company is doing, I'd like to get together and discuss the possibility of working with you", would you say no? I'd abs…

Oh man, so much this. I get so much recruiter spam from LinkedIn, I just stopped responding altogether. One recruiter took to emailing and calling me daily, despite the fact that I never once responded to them. That doesn't make me think you're interested in my particular talents. It makes me think you're desperate and a sociopath who has no respect for other people's time or wishes. If I wanted to talk to you, I wou…

Did you consider responding and letting them know you weren't interested?

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by fecak »

martin-adams wrote: post #443
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> I wouldn't personally hire someone via recruiters or LinkedIn, but I would hire someone via a recomendation from a contact I maintain on LinkedIn. I'm a recruiter, and fully understand reluctance to use recruiters (expensive, not to mention a host of other reputation issues). I don't quite understand "I would't hire someone via...LinkedIn". 'Hire someone via LinkedIn' could mean a host of things. The most obvious w…

>> "I saw your profile on LinkedIn and I like what your company is doing, I'd like to get together and discuss the possibility of working with you" I think this is my problem with LinkedIn, that conversation doesn't happen. I get connection requests and I'm left baffled to what their angle is. I literally scan the bio of the one connecting for the words 'recruiter' or 'business development' and then reject them. It's…

I think these conversations don't happen because job seekers aren't really using LinkedIn in this way, at least yet. When I coach job seekers, I usually encourage them to use LinkedIn to try and identify companies that could be a fit similar to how recruiters use LinkedIn.

If you're a Python dev and you want to work within 30 miles of Dallas TX, you can do an advanced search on the word Python (maybe add a couple others) and then set location to Dallas metro. Your results will be individuals, and those individuals all should be working for local companies that are using Python (with some false positives obviously). That's a decent list to start off for someone, because it's not just companies that are currently listing open jobs - applying only to open jobs isn't the best way to find jobs.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by Silhouette »

jkaljundi wrote: post #501
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is really close to profit This is the thing I find hard to understand about these big corporate acquisitions. What multiple of "really close to profit" makes a bigger number than $26B? If it's a start-up with obvious potential but relatively early in its life, or an established business that is currently reinvesting revenues on a large scale to drive growth, I can understand not being concerned about the profits. But…

It has been growing 35% year on year recently, at $3b revenue. No reason why this could not keep accelerating thanks to effects from MS.

No reason why this could not keep accelerating thanks to effects from MS.

That seems a little optimistic to me. With LinkedIn in such a dominant position, there is only so far for them to grow in user numbers. That means they need to increase revenue-per-user as well to maintain anything like that kind of growth, but again there is only so far you can push with things like advertising rates before your customers can get better returns on their budget from other channels.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by rmykhajliw »

I believe it will be great for whole industry, because microsoft money pushed Likedin to more user and developer friendly environment (Yes, I suppose they will open API again aka twitter). Better API will bring more business tools integration, so it increases role of Linkedin, as result it will push the whole social media market to a new level, instead current stagnation.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Post by pricechild »

fecak wrote: post #520
g051051 wrote: post #496

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> If you saw a LinkedIn profile that you thought would make a good addition to your team, would you not reach out to that person just because you found them on LinkedIn? I'd never approach someone cold like that. >If someone approached you and said "I saw your profile on LinkedIn and I like what your company is doing, I'd like to get together and discuss the possibility of working with you", would you say no? I'd abs…

OK. If you happened to be on LinkedIn and saw someone that had taken the time to put together an attractive profile (nice summary, links to GitHub and maybe a tech blog, their email address (contact me at...), a comment about being open to new career opportunities, all the niceties), and that person's skill set was a fit for a position you had currently available, would you just pretend you didn't see this person at…

If that's how it really worked then it might work out ok.

But this is the real world and standards aren't going to be kept that high. Even if you stick to doing things well, your competitors won't and they will turn us off you too.

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