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Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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"The TPP requires the 12 participating countries to allow cross-border transfers of information and prohibits them from requiring local storage of data" Yup, definitely the wrong side of this. I can't see how this will get passed in the EU when it directly contradicts all the previous data protection rulings, but presumably there will be some undemocratic process.

The TPP is the Trans-Pacific Partnership which doesn't include the EU (only countries on the Pacific).

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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This is absolute bullshit and you have no proof to back up your ludicrous claims.

Let me help you out http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eric+smidt+think+tank+hilary+clinton

That's Eric Schmidt, not Google. While he may be the executive chairman for Google, those efforts are outside of Google's goals.

If you want to look into where Google puts some of it's money, check out: https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00428623

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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For someone who hasn't been following it, what makes you say they are?

It's not necessarily google itself, but Eric Schmidt has a company called The Groundwork that has been working for her campaign. http://qz.com/520652/groundwork-eric-schmidt-startup-working...

Does Schmidt have a day-to-day role at Google anymore? I was under the impression that he is essentially retired from Google's operations and serves only as a board member.

Anyway, it raises the question of whether a board member / former exec can do things on his own time and dime without it reflecting on Google. Does everything that Schmidt does imply that Google is doing it too?

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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Anyone who has even been passively following the US election cycle this year knows that Google is throwing in with Hillary Clinton. This is just another example of it and is honestly much less troubling to me than their censorship issues around the campaign.

For someone who hasn't been following it, what makes you say they are?

I only have additional anecdotes, but the claim has been leveled several times with varying degrees of convincing evidence. Here's another: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/10/google-is-manipulati...

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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This is what irrational looks like. "just wrong" Um. Ok. Why? `limiting exploration of fair use` Unless you're one of those empirical people and like human experimentation, which is rather unethical when people's livelihoods are at stake, you can literally theorize that right now. Go ahead. Everybody's listening.

Well, while you continue to think about that and have no answer, we'll continue using laws that protect content creators.

Many of these opinions are nonsensical anti-capitalist drivel.

TPP is consistency and compromise and if there's a real better way, you better believe countries will adapt to it.

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me help you out http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eric+smidt+think+tank+hilary+clinton

That's Eric Schmidt, not Google. While he may be the executive chairman for Google, those efforts are outside of Google's goals. If you want to look into where Google puts some of it's money, check out: https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00428623

As posted elsewhere, it's not damning and could still be a total coincidence, but it does raise eyebrows: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/10/google-is-manipulati...

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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post #15

This is what irrational looks like. "just wrong" Um. Ok. Why? `limiting exploration of fair use` Unless you're one of those empirical people and like human experimentation, which is rather unethical when people's livelihoods are at stake, you can literally theorize that right now. Go ahead. Everybody's listening. Well, while you continue to think about that and have no answer, we'll continue using laws that protect c…

Irrational and anti-capitalist these are not. There is nothing free-market about a patent or copyright, they are exceptions to the free market meant to try and subsidize "innovation," and smart people are still arguing on whether or not that is working well today. There are other issues that the TPP forces the hand of the American legislative system to pass new restrictions where we had previously voted against doing so. It is an undemocratic, anti-free-market end run around the American legislative branch.

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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Google has come down on the right side of the TPP - for Google. The company is a major major major player for most of humanity outside of China. Even people who use exactly zero Google products or services are inextricably linked with those who do, by just a few degrees of separation. This deal would be a huge benefit to one of the most global corporations in history. I'm not defending Google by any means, but the company had every right to defend its own self-interest.

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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Google has come down on the right side of the TPP - for Google. The company is a major major major player for most of humanity outside of China. Even people who use exactly zero Google products or services are inextricably linked with those who do, by just a few degrees of separation. This deal would be a huge benefit to one of the most global corporations in history. I'm not defending Google by any means, but the co…

And we have every right to criticize them for it.

Re: Google Comes Down on the Wrong Side of the TPP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone who hasn't been following it, what makes you say they are?

I only have additional anecdotes, but the claim has been leveled several times with varying degrees of convincing evidence. Here's another: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/06/10/google-is-manipulati...

They block all autocompletes of the form "firstname lastname liar" and other similar words.

For example they block "hillary clinton liar". They allow "hillary liar". They block "donald trump liar". They block "george bush liar", they allow "bush liar".

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