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Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Twitter is the cheapest of the big networks. LinkedIn is entrenched in its market, unlike most of the others (including Instagram, Snapchat, etc.) Twitter I think would be a good buy somewhere, but Jack and his team seem inept and they probably want a massive premium. When I first heard the news it made no sense; but after pondering, I think I know what they are trying to do, and it does makes sense. Also, LinkedIn w…

The outer edges of Twitter's user base will frighten off most corporate acquirers. Too much ISIS; too much political screaming; and a user culture that doesn't want Facebook style barriers to R-rated or X-rated content. Big companies hate to be caught in the middle of controversies. LinkedIn's content is safe to a fault. Buying Twitter and making it uncontroversial would drain two-thirds of the value right away. Mayb…

Twitter users actually spend time on Twitter, read status updates from hundreds of followed accounts, have it installed on their phones, etc. And at least for me Twitter has been much more interesting than Facebook. Because even though most of my friends are on Facebook, most of the people I admire are on Twitter.

LinkedIn on the other hand is, depending on your point of view, either a database of incomplete, mostly outdated and uninteresting resumes, or a circle jerk of HR folks and dubious "coaches".

People stay on LinkedIn because they are afraid of missing out. But really, it's a genuine ghost town, a once promising service that was completely destroyed by their monetization needs and most of us have classified LinkedIn emails as spam long ago, after realizing you can't unsubscribe from it. And the only reason I haven't deleted my account yet is because once in a blue moon I get to take a look at forwarded profiles. You don't get anything interesting really, LinkedIn profiles are boring, superficial and generic, but hope never dies.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Like the forced Win10 updates, spyware, ads directly in the OS which you paid for, ...?

The forced updates are something that's been long overdue. Imagine a world without old versions of IE that your webapps still have to support because else you're losing 10% of your users.

Yeah, the forced upgrade isn't bad. The low quality of the new version is bad.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Exactly. Integration of LinkedIn data with Dynamics and Yammer would be huge. Imagine this scenario: - User is logged in to LinkedIn - User visits your website - Their visit is logged by some JS to Dynamics CRM - A record is created/updated in Dynamics CRM, populated with their name, job title and contact details from LinkedIn Further down the line, I can see LinkedIn fully becoming part of Office 365. This isn't Mic…

That is basically steps 1 & 2. Step 3 is you get an email (marketing or sales) because Dynamics notified assigned a task to a sales rep or started a job in marketing automation. Then, based on you opening/ replying/ not opening the email, a whole new series of tasks are created. If MSFT / Dynamics do this right, they will have a very strong Salesforce competitor.

Honestly, Linkedin by itself would have made a very strong Salesforce competitor. Not sure why they never went down that route, instead they focused only on recruiting, the least interesting use-case.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Noob question: how can Microsoft buy LinkedIn given that large parts of it are owned buy random investors who might not want to sell? What happens to someone who, lets say, bought $10k worth of LinkedIn stock two years ago and has no intention to sell. Will that person be forced to sell his stock?

Generally, the corporation's internal governing documents will specify the rules for sale, but the norm is a majority vote of the shareholders. Those who voted against may have some remedies if the firm was undervalued, but, yes, they can be forced to sell stock.

The remedies vary but in Delaware these disputes are heard in Delaware's Court of Chancery.

You can google for recent judgement in the (re?)purchase of Dell by Michael Dell. Chancellor ruled the stock was underpriced by the terms of the sale but the remedy is available only to those shareholders who sued not all.

Appraisal is a bizarre bit of corporate law to say the least.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Sounds like an awful lot of money. Must be cheaper ways to make the money LinkedIn is supposed to make them.

And MS has a pretty bad history with these big acquisitions. MS Kin failed. Skype is not what it used to be. People seemed to start leaving it after MS bought it and made it worse. Nokia was a big disaster.

Shouldn't they have learned by now? I pretty sure MS is not going to make back the money spent on LinkedIn.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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>Actually looking forward to MS's UX folk cleaning up LinkedIn. This. This the only reason im excited about the acquisition. LinkedIn UX is awful. What makes me nervous though, is some things could get worse. (skype has gone downhill ever since the acquisition i feel).

I used to have a normal Skype in Linux. Then migrated to live: type of account (AKA Outlook). Now I cannot even access my Skype anymore because the outlook/skype don't sync properly. I'm slowly migrating away from any Microsoft product. Luckily I closed my Linkedin account a while back. This is my new Linkedin: http://francisco.io/ (my own website).

Your rich text editor demo is leading to a 404'd page http://francisco.io/editor. Your site is very nice btw

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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Not just the UX but all aspects of brand and design. LinkedIn is hideous, difficult to use, buggy, and creepy. If MSFT can fix a few of those it'll be a win. If not it's hard to see the platform living another 5 years.

> LinkedIn is hideous, difficult to use, buggy, and creepy. If MSFT can fix a few of those it'll be a win. Have you seen Windows 10 yet?

Fortunately no. I've not used or seen a Windows machine (aside from old XP VMs I use to test ie) in at least 5 years.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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I would think that non-techies would be even more confused and annoyed by their computer suddenly drastically changing out from underneath them without their permission.

And then they'd get over it. Oddly enough, my parents upgraded this past week: Mom: Honey, what's this thing stopping me from [shopping]? Dad: Don't click the button! Mom: [long lecture about how she's trying to do stuff for her grandkids]. Dad: Fine, just hit the damn button. Me: DON'T HIT THE BUTTON! I'll walk you through it. I proceeded to explain it to them. 5 days later they don't even remember/care. I guarantee…

Most of us get repeated phone calls asking where the buttons went. Learning new things gets harder with age.

Re: Microsoft to acquire LinkedIn for $26B

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post #183

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Exactly. Integration of LinkedIn data with Dynamics and Yammer would be huge. Imagine this scenario: - User is logged in to LinkedIn - User visits your website - Their visit is logged by some JS to Dynamics CRM - A record is created/updated in Dynamics CRM, populated with their name, job title and contact details from LinkedIn Further down the line, I can see LinkedIn fully becoming part of Office 365. This isn't Mic…

That is basically steps 1 & 2. Step 3 is you get an email (marketing or sales) because Dynamics notified assigned a task to a sales rep or started a job in marketing automation. Then, based on you opening/ replying/ not opening the email, a whole new series of tasks are created. If MSFT / Dynamics do this right, they will have a very strong Salesforce competitor.

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