Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
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Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#2She could have approved drone strikes using smoke signals or carrier pigeons... - it all boils down to the same thing - execution of human beings without a trial...
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#3Is this against the law, or just the way things are done now? My gut instinct would be there's more examination that goes into a drone strike but after the Snowden revelations I don't know what to believe.
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#4She could have approved drone strikes using smoke signals or carrier pigeons... - it all boils down to the same thing - execution of human beings without a trial...
This description fits almost any action that you can perform when you're at war. So, either you advocate that war courts review cases of all the enemy soldiers before aithorizing an attack, or you have to come up with a more precise definition of what is exactly wrong here.
Clarification: I'm not a fan of CIA assasinations, far from it; but "execution without a trial" isn't logically justifiable complaint: we do it in a lot of situations no reasonable person would argue with.
Edit: my original comment was pointing out errors in someone's logic. Sadly, everybody seems to think that this means that I've taken a certain side in drone debate. This is not the case; please, read my comment and understand what exactly am I saying — and what I'm not — before reacting.
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
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Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#6Is this against the law, or just the way things are done now? My gut instinct would be there's more examination that goes into a drone strike but after the Snowden revelations I don't know what to believe.
Outside of handling confidential information on non-secure channels, the issue could the authentication. You want to be sure it is actually her approving it.
Another issue could be about the quality of the briefing: if the phone call was all she got, it might mean that she wasn’t briefed enough to review the evidence and make an informed decision.
However, I think that this just goes to the line: she was reckless with confidential information — which, at this level, is against the law.
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#7She could have approved drone strikes using smoke signals or carrier pigeons... - it all boils down to the same thing - execution of human beings without a trial...
This description fits almost any action that you can perform when you're at war. So, either you advocate that war courts review cases of all the enemy soldiers before aithorizing an attack, or you have to come up with a more precise definition of what is exactly wrong here. Clarification: I'm not a fan of CIA assasinations, far from it; but "execution without a trial" isn't logically justifiable complaint: we do it i…
> no reasonable person would argue with.
By framing it like this, that's where you take a wrong turn.
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#8She could have approved drone strikes using smoke signals or carrier pigeons... - it all boils down to the same thing - execution of human beings without a trial...
This description fits almost any action that you can perform when you're at war. So, either you advocate that war courts review cases of all the enemy soldiers before aithorizing an attack, or you have to come up with a more precise definition of what is exactly wrong here. Clarification: I'm not a fan of CIA assasinations, far from it; but "execution without a trial" isn't logically justifiable complaint: we do it i…
It's one thing to shoot soldiers without a trial.
It's a far different thing to bomb random folks living their lives in Afghanistan, then retcon all male casualties to terrorists.
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#9She could have approved drone strikes using smoke signals or carrier pigeons... - it all boils down to the same thing - execution of human beings without a trial...
This description fits almost any action that you can perform when you're at war. So, either you advocate that war courts review cases of all the enemy soldiers before aithorizing an attack, or you have to come up with a more precise definition of what is exactly wrong here. Clarification: I'm not a fan of CIA assasinations, far from it; but "execution without a trial" isn't logically justifiable complaint: we do it i…
Saying that the US is at war with various groups of people in the country side of Pakistan is a rather generous definition of the concept of war, isn't it?
It's more like "the US is blowing up people who may or may not be those intended, but it's kinda hard to tell since they're doing it all by remote control".
Re: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations with her cellphone, report says
#10"There's an app for that!"™