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The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own.

You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into question about his if not fraudulent, largely worthless "university" due to their race. Then there's Bernie who refuses to acknowledge any extremes of socialism. Oh, yes, and then there's the Lt. Gov. from my state Tweeting a statement like this after the worst mass shooting in US history. It's either sick or incredibly tone deaf:

"A man reaps what he sows." [0]

Knowing his stances on Muslims and the LGBT community, it's not clear what he's referring to.

This is a sickness and the modern tech industry is directly responsible. We are creating echo chambers. There is endemic corruption and misinformation at all levels. Will we do something? We used to have big dreams, even if the reality on the ground didn't live up to them. Now we just Tweet.

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patr...

Re: The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

I agree with what you say, expect what you say about the tech industry being directly responsible. Could you expand a little more on that? I don't really see the connection between the tech industry and the US electorate..

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

> People aren't willing to make their party accountable.

Consider the possibility that party politics and bureaucracy are set up to perpetuate their internal power structures and make outside interference costly. It's "their" party in the sense that constituents are blamed for the failure of the political system but the system is set up so that no individual can constructively engage with the system without incredible sacrifice.

I think this is a crucial criticism of liberal democracy. All political systems proscribe action taken outside of their logic, but their logic is set up to preserve the power structures that define that logic.

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

I agree with what you say, expect what you say about the tech industry being directly responsible. Could you expand a little more on that? I don't really see the connection between the tech industry and the US electorate..

I think he is referring to social echo chambers, ie. twitter/facebook/reddit and so on.

Re: The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

> Then there's Bernie who refuses to aknowledge any extremes of socialism.

One of these criticisms is not like the others. Sanders is a moderate democratic socialist - in any other industrialized country, he'd be considered mildly left of centre. Let's not equate his slightly out-of-step politics with the actual abuses and mendacities of the other candidates.

Re: The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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Gerrymandering has outrageous results [0] and voter suppression of minorities is right out of a novel [1]. It's so screwed up that votes almost don't matter, depending on who last classified what voting district you're in.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/13/this-...

[1] http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/02/02/3745296/major-vo...

Re: The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with what you say, expect what you say about the tech industry being directly responsible. Could you expand a little more on that? I don't really see the connection between the tech industry and the US electorate..

I think he is referring to social echo chambers, ie. twitter/facebook/reddit and so on.

Oh, I see. Thank you :)

Re: The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

I agree with what you say, expect what you say about the tech industry being directly responsible. Could you expand a little more on that? I don't really see the connection between the tech industry and the US electorate..

We've created tools that allow people to become more and more politically polarized along the Republican/Democratic spectrum, and even self radicalized as terrorists. Without stomping on freedom of speech I don't know what we as an industry can do. Are we like gun manufacturers who can simply say "it's not our fault that our tools are used for evil?"

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People aren't willing to make their politicians accountable. It's always the other person's fault, the other side's extremes; never their own. You've got Clinton running an email server exposed to the world as secretary of state, ignoring warnings about it and then lying about it. Yet she will probably end up getting elected because it's all a "Republican conspiracy". Meanwhile, Trump is calling a judge's ruling into…

Can you please provide a link to the tweet? Thanks.
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