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IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop using Apple. Use Linux, or if you can't, use Microsoft.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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The control that Apple has over the iPhone and the application distribution channel does contribute greatly to the iPhone's success. It makes the platform easily accessible to people who aren't inclined to search the internet for apps and are, in fact, afraid of doing it for all the malware experiences they have on their PCs. They know the App Store has everything, and that they can reasonably expect that the apps won't harm their device.

But, the iPhone is still just a phone. Most people don't hit the walls of the room Apple has them locked in. Heck, most people don't even do much with their iPhones... They rarely browse the web or use it to do serious email (one line replies in a pinch are not "serious email") because they find the screen too small and the experience too cumbersome when compared to a real computer. They install some apps, but never really use them besides the first few minutes, unless they're games, which also says much about the typical iPhone user: phone calls and games.

The people that complain about lack of openness are the exception.

Now, the iPad is not an iPhone. Nobody will buy it to make phone calls, although they will certainly play games in it. The iPad is more of a computer, and more people will hit the walls of Apple's control. _This_ is what's going to define the iPad's success.

It is a beautiful device, but if the average Joe expects it to behave more like a standard computer than an iPhone, and if Apple doesn't make it more open, it may very well end up a failure.

I like the iPhone, and if I weren't the kind of person that lives fine with just a basic phone, I would prefer one over the alternatives (android et al) even though it is much less open. On the other hand, I won't buy an iPad despite how beautiful it is because it is too expensive for something that's not a real computer.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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post #3

The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop usin…

Unfortunately I don't think these private individual political boycotts are very effective. If you want to stop Apple, you need to bring something clearly better to the market, and that thing needs to have the underlying structure necessary to reach Apple's core audience and tell them how much better the new thing is and why you don't need Apple's crap anymore.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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post #3

The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop usin…

I can't say anything else but agree.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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post #3

The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop usin…

Unfortunately I don't think these private individual political boycotts are very effective. If you want to stop Apple, you need to bring something clearly better to the market, and that thing needs to have the underlying structure necessary to reach Apple's core audience and tell them how much better the new thing is and why you don't need Apple's crap anymore.

Well private individual will also have a hard time bringing something better to the market than apple.

Individual's first strength is to boycott something. And to raise his/shes voice so that the alternative arguments are heard too.

I just called 90% of my techie/geek colleagues pussies over twitter after reading this.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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post #3

The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop usin…

Couldn't agree more. Though I'm waiting to see what new Mac Pro will bring. Tuth is I can't find dual processor machine for same money/quality as apple makes it, even though I'm installing windows on it (mostly for applications I'm using). Mac Pro is one damn nice Windows box.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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The iPad will sell like hotcakes and while some preach doomsday for freedom others will make millions developing for it.

At the end, pops and moms will be happier than ever with their new computing experience that doesn't crash every day and has to be formatted and reinstalled every other month.

Re: IPad thoughts from Ben Fry (creator of Processing)

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post #3

The worst enemy of freedom in software is not Microsoft, it's Apple. You're pretty free to develop and distribute software as you want on Windows. On new Apple devices, they control the way the software is distributed, they tax you, they make you obey their rules. Imagine a world with appstore as the main way of distributing software for any kind of devices. This would be hell. This is where Apple is going. Stop usin…

This is only true of the iPad/iPhone ecosystem. For OSX, they give away development tools better than the ones microsoft charges ridiculous amounts of money for. Almost all apple-made software (even the kind they sell) doesn't even make you enter a license key. If you are honestly worried about a closed app store coming to OSX based on what Apple does with phones and devices that they clearly think of as large phones, you are paranoid.
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