It is 2 way street physical damage can cause mental damage, vise versa.Pure psychological damage takes sometime to really cause physical damage I would imagine. PTSD Is a thing that we all suffer from as we get older and get bumps and experience trauma. this is a great find. +1.
What If PTSD Is More Physical Than Psychological? Evidence from new study
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#52Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
Quantum Biology looks interesting, I'm in no way qualified to opine, yet I am fairly confident we're still a long way from a complete understanding of body and mind!
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#53> Physicalism of the mind isn't unanimously accepted in philosophy. Much philosophy is just bad science. Pontificating over unanswerable questions is little more than a waste of time. Philosophy's greatest achievement was science, which is a better way to explore reality because logic alone isn't enough, it needs to be backed by evidence. Physicalism is all that is known to exist, those asserting otherwise have no ev…
> Pontificating over unanswerable questions is little more than a waste of time.
You clearly don't understand philosophy. Some philosophers like hearing their own voice talk about such questions, just like some physicists are themselves crackpots. Most philosophers are trying to properly define an otherwise ill-defined subject, and the only way to do that is via various types of thought experiments, just like Einstein did when he formulated his theory of relativity. Or did you not know that science is natural philosophy?
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a false analogy though. Brains don't run software the way computers run software. The brain's behaviour is emergent from its physical structure.
A computer's behavior is no less emergent from its physical structure.
Except computer behaviour isn't emergent from its structure, it's emergent from its programming which happens after its structure is fully formed. And neural structure changes during its operation, which most computers don't.
They aren't remotely the same thing. Certainly you can simulate this operation of neural structure, but to suggest they are effectively the same is to suggest that cars and mice are effectively the same. They're both just made of matter aren't they?
Re: What If PTSD Is More Physical Than Psychological? Evidence from new study
#55Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
It's not so simple - while it is obvious that physical damage to the brain can cause psychological damage to the mind (e.g. lobotomy), it's not clear (at least to me) if purely psychological damage (e.g. horrific emotional events, war situations with no physical effect to you) can disrupt the physical functioning of the brain.
Change in balance of some neurotransmitters can cause symptoms of mental illness - but can purely psychological events (i.e. what you observe and contemplate) cause permanent alterations to that chemical balance, cellular dysfunction, structural damage in the brain, etc?
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#56Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
Although this is true, learning that there is a specific physical sign in the brains of those who have suffered blasts at close range, and that this sign is not present in those who have suffered other forms of stress, is a significant breakthrough!
The article presents this as an issue of physical vs. psychological, but even stripped of that misconception it's still an interesting article.
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#57I found this article interesting but frustrating. Conflating PTSD (a mental illness that is caused by traumatic experience) with concussive traumatic brain injury isn't helpful. I kept thinking it would be more interesting (and aligned to the headline) to look at PTSD sufferers brains when they didn't have a known physical injury to their brains.
I knew someone with PTSD following a brutal rape. He choked her during the rape and she was covered in bruises, etc afterwards. For at least the next two years, she suffered from repeated bouts of bronchitis and yeast infections. She finally insisted the doctor run tests and not just give her a standing prescription for yeast meds (this was before they were available as OTC meds) and they found an infection was the root cause of the yeast infections -- something weird, like vaginal strep.
I have a serious medical condition and any time I am incredibly physically impaired, it impairs my cognitive function as well. I see no reason why we need to have brain trauma per se to make a connection between physical ailments and mental health issues.
(Edited. I fucking hate autocorrect sometimes.)
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#58Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
It's not so simple - while it is obvious that physical damage to the brain can cause psychological damage to the mind (e.g. lobotomy), it's not clear (at least to me) if purely psychological damage (e.g. horrific emotional events, war situations with no physical effect to you ) can disrupt the physical functioning of the brain. Change in balance of some neurotransmitters can cause symptoms of mental illness - but can…
If a permanent change in your psychology did not correspond with some permanent change in your physical person, then what would there be that was causing the change in your psychology? Some non-physical "soul" or "mind"?
All psychological facts have physical correlates (in philosophy of mind, this is called "supervenience"). The only limit is our ability to measure things. As our ability to measure our own brains and bodies increases, we should expect to uncover more and more physical correlates of psychological conditions.
Re: What If PTSD Is More Physical Than Psychological? Evidence from new study
#59Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
It's not so simple - while it is obvious that physical damage to the brain can cause psychological damage to the mind (e.g. lobotomy), it's not clear (at least to me) if purely psychological damage (e.g. horrific emotional events, war situations with no physical effect to you ) can disrupt the physical functioning of the brain. Change in balance of some neurotransmitters can cause symptoms of mental illness - but can…
Yes. Psychological trauma can result in repeated and excessive flooding of the synapses with neurotransmitters, which can cause lasting physical damage much like drug abuse can.
Re: What If PTSD Is More Physical Than Psychological? Evidence from new study
#60Or, get this, and this is super radical of an idea I know: There is not much of a separation between physical and psychological in the first place. Every part of the body is interconnected--as people develop disease, often times mental symptoms develop secondarily so. Depression and anxiety are super common in all sorts of illness states. There are numerous studies showing cellular dysfunction and rampant oxidative s…
It's not so simple - while it is obvious that physical damage to the brain can cause psychological damage to the mind (e.g. lobotomy), it's not clear (at least to me) if purely psychological damage (e.g. horrific emotional events, war situations with no physical effect to you ) can disrupt the physical functioning of the brain. Change in balance of some neurotransmitters can cause symptoms of mental illness - but can…
They've put people who've had extreme childhood abuse into brain scanners, and seen differences in the amygdala.
I think they took a different group of people and predicted differences in the amygdala based on psychologic symptoms, and then checked that in MRI scans, and found the differences they predicted. (Although I'm having trouble find the links at the moment.)