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Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by tobtoh »

quarterto wrote: post #38
tobtoh wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expected Messenger would just handle chat messages (ie a direct replacement for my web-based FB chat). That it also would re-route voice calls was not expected, but I don't blame it for that. I do blame it that it doesn't give me the option to disable that functionality. I do not want phone calls to be routed via Messenger ever - yet you have no ability to separate that functionality.

Your friend chose to contact you via Facebook Messenger, for whatever reason. It didn't "reroute" anything. Phone calls are phone calls. If they'd actually rung you instead of using Facebook Messenger, your phone would still have rung.

It does reroute it.

If you use Messenger to call another Messenger user, it will attempt to make the call as a VOIP call using your data. If you don't have Messenger, it routes it as a normal phone call via your telco 'voice' 3G/4G network. Similar to how iMessage works with SMS on iphones (except with iMessage, I can turn it off on my end)

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by quarterto »

tobtoh wrote: post #41
quarterto wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your friend chose to contact you via Facebook Messenger, for whatever reason. It didn't "reroute" anything. Phone calls are phone calls. If they'd actually rung you instead of using Facebook Messenger, your phone would still have rung.

It does reroute it. If you use Messenger to call another Messenger user, it will attempt to make the call as a VOIP call using your data. If you don't have Messenger, it routes it as a normal phone call via your telco 'voice' 3G/4G network. Similar to how iMessage works with SMS on iphones (except with iMessage, I can turn it off on my end)

Okay, but you made it sound like Messenger was intercepting an incoming "normal phone call".

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by reitanqild »

iainmerrick wrote: post #36
reitanqild wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a lot if techies are actively recommending the most useless alternative (twitter: everyone shouting to everyone, only very basic features etc) while actively hating the only network that had a chance, google+. And the reason for the hate: mostly it seems because google in their infinite I-dont-know-what decided to 1. push the hated (but understandable for technicians even at my level) common identity solution und…

I agree with most of that, but why are you keen on G+? It was never open and never amenable to self-hosting or anything like that. It was just a Facebook clone (arguably a little bit different now). Going further back a year or two, I think Google Wave was going to allow self-hosting. But of course that sank with barely a trace.

> but why are you keen on G+?

It is just the only viable alternative with major commercial backing for now. Twitter could have been but they are too busy painting themselves into the corner.

Old Google at least could be crazy enough to do whatever it takes just to kick Facebook where it hurts. But I'm dreaming.

(Oh and don't underestimate how much I love it just because of all the haters that hang around here :-P)

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by zem »

parthdesai wrote: post #29
Spooky23 wrote: post #8

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A recent TechCrunch article reported that the functionality that you use is going away. It's a hamfisted move. They abuse these apps to do something -- my wife tried the messenger app and discovered a noticeable loss of battery life. I think she uninstalled it within 24 hours.

For me personally, it has gone away. I used to own Moto g ( 1 gb ram version) so there was no way i could afford to have messenger and facebook app installed on my phone. I budged and installed messenger when i bought nexus 6P though.

mbasic.facebook.com still has access to messages, if you want to uninstall messenger

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by spriggan3 »

reitanqild wrote: post #31
soylentcola wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem isn't that we're missing a "next Facebook". There have been several from both large companies and smaller startups that offer a better Facebook than Facebook in terms of UI, features, etc. The features are the easy part. The thing that prevents adoption of the next Facebook is that everyone is already on Facebook. Unlike email, you can't switch your provider or roll your own and still communicate with eve…

And a lot if techies are actively recommending the most useless alternative (twitter: everyone shouting to everyone, only very basic features etc) while actively hating the only network that had a chance, google+. And the reason for the hate: mostly it seems because google in their infinite I-dont-know-what decided to 1. push the hated (but understandable for technicians even at my level) common identity solution und…

> while actively hating the only network that had a chance, google+.

Google+ is like Wordpress.com, it's no replacement for Facebook. The fact that is it public BY DEFAULT is a no go for me. Facebook at least allows me to configure what data can and cannot be accessed by my friends,friends of friends ... I'm also a bit sick of giving all my personal datas to Google so i'm not going to use more of their services.

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by franciscop »

tobtoh wrote: post #18
jaitsu wrote: post #3

They seem to go about these things in the wrong way. Take Messenger for example, there was no good reason to remove access to this via a browser on mobile devices. I don't want to have to install an app for something that was previously available in a browser. If you can't provide me with all of the features of messenger in the browser then that's fine. I thought we were meant to be progressing towards a truly open w…

> If you can't provide me with all of the features of messenger in the browser then that's fine. And I'd also prefer if they don't try and hijack other features. I had installed Messenger, but had notifications turned off because I don't care to be interrupted every time someone sends me a new message when I'm not actively participating in the chat. Today, someone tried to call me (as in voice call), via the Messenge…

I recently deleted the Facebook app and the world hasn't stopped spining.

Actually I feel quite better

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by SixSigma »

jaitsu wrote: post #3

They seem to go about these things in the wrong way. Take Messenger for example, there was no good reason to remove access to this via a browser on mobile devices. I don't want to have to install an app for something that was previously available in a browser. If you can't provide me with all of the features of messenger in the browser then that's fine. I thought we were meant to be progressing towards a truly open w…

Not only that but the list of permissions for the app is vastly greater than the list I am willing to allow them.

I use Firefox so I can just his "pretend to be a desktop browser" and respond to messages.

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by rokosbasilisk »

franciscop wrote: post #46
tobtoh wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you can't provide me with all of the features of messenger in the browser then that's fine. And I'd also prefer if they don't try and hijack other features. I had installed Messenger, but had notifications turned off because I don't care to be interrupted every time someone sends me a new message when I'm not actively participating in the chat. Today, someone tried to call me (as in voice call), via the Messenge…

I recently deleted the Facebook app and the world hasn't stopped spining. Actually I feel quite better

I just quit Facebook and feel the same.

Re: Facebook threatens to delete synced photos if users don't download new photo app

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Post by reitanqild »

spriggan3 wrote: post #45
reitanqild wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a lot if techies are actively recommending the most useless alternative (twitter: everyone shouting to everyone, only very basic features etc) while actively hating the only network that had a chance, google+. And the reason for the hate: mostly it seems because google in their infinite I-dont-know-what decided to 1. push the hated (but understandable for technicians even at my level) common identity solution und…

> while actively hating the only network that had a chance, google+. Google+ is like Wordpress.com, it's no replacement for Facebook. The fact that is it public BY DEFAULT is a no go for me. Facebook at least allows me to configure what data can and cannot be accessed by my friends,friends of friends ... I'm also a bit sick of giving all my personal datas to Google so i'm not going to use more of their services.

> The fact that is it public BY DEFAULT is a no go for me. Facebook at least allows me to configure what data can and cannot be accessed by my friends,friends of friends ...

Google+ allows this as well. No way I would share my family photos with the Internet.

Also, unlike Facebook, Google+ hasn't (yet) at least gone back and retroactively made private stuff public. (They did however mess upp the buzz launch pretty badly though.)

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