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Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by joshvm »

LionessLover wrote: post #90
wibr wrote: post #66

https://class.coursera.org/ml-005/lecture Machine Learning, Andrew Ng https://class.coursera.org/algo-003/lecture Algorithms 1, Tim Roughgarden https://class.coursera.org/algo2-003/lecture Algorithms 2, Tim Roughgarden Edit: https://class.coursera.org/compilers/lecture/preview Compilers, Alex Aiken What else?

The ML course has quite some time ago been made available as an untimed "always-on" course at https://www.coursera.org/learn/machine-learning

Are the quizzes etc free still? My impression from the post was that the new site has stripped access to the exercises unless you pay up.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by lovelearning »

peterarmstrong wrote: post #82
lovelearning wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably depends on what the product or service is, and how it's sold. Coursera already provides some courses for free, and even those attract some high maintenance types from what I've seen in the forums. Does providing a pay-what-you-want option increase the number of nasties or the degree of nastiness, for example, inviting legal risks? I don't really know. But I feel Coursera should atleast experiment and gath…

Leanpub co-founder here. We're really happy with our minimum price + suggested price strategy, and have no plans to change it. When coupled with our sliders which clearly show the (very high, 90% minus 50 cents) royalties that are earned by the author(s), and with our free update distribution, we get a lot of benefits for our authors, including: 1. When there is a low or a free minimum price, readers who otherwise co…

I'm really happy to find out that a business model based on a sense of goodness and fairness is working out well for you at LeanPub. I feel cynicism and pessimism about people should not stop us from trying out different models.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by [deleted] »

LionessLover wrote: post #89
unimpressive wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is anybody else able to download the compilers course? I'm having trouble.

I don't have any problems. I used the standard options with `coursera-dl`. It's all been downloaded without a hitch now. cd /D/Videos/Courses/ ./coursera-dl/coursera-dl -u > -p > compilers-004

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Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by TeMPOraL »

draven wrote: post #80
Illniyar wrote: post #74

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Well the "humble indie bundle" is doing well with this pricing strategy. Not sure if it's applicable outside that market, but it might. http://humblebundle.com/

I think it works well because there are incentives: pay more than the average to unlock a few additional games, and pay more than X to unlock everything. I don't know if unlocking everything by default would work that well.

AFAIR it used to work well that way. I.e. I don't recall the first bundles to have "pay more than average" and "pay more than X"; as far as I can tell, it was clean "pay what you want". I don't know why they decided to include those tiers.

Also, funny thing, looking at payment logs you can clearly tell the average is often purposefully inflated by some people (I guess the dev studios).

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by TeMPOraL »

draven wrote: post #83
wibr wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I posted them, so that people can download them before end of this month.

I was about to suggest coordinating a bit to make a torrent for each course and avoid generating too much trafic downloading them, but it seems to be prohibited by the ToS ("You may download content from our Services only for your personal, non-commercial use, unless you obtain Coursera's written permission to otherwise use the content".)

Well, they brought it on themselves. If the only way to download courses they allow in ToS is to DDoS them with download requests, so be it.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by Houshalter »

LionessLover wrote: post #93
_xhok wrote: post #10

I'll probably get shot down for being that typical negative HN comment, but do MOOCs like Coursera actually do much in the way of making education more accessible or society fairer? All the content offered on Coursera already exists on the internet. Really motivated people will aggressively look for study materials, and they generally don't have a problem finding it. It seems to me that it's actually the internet tha…

It doesn't make it fairer - studies have shown that overwhelmingly those already privileged take online courses (no, individual examples to the contrary don't count - this is about numbers, statistics, not the edges of the distribution). Especially for the better courses you should really already have had quite an education. And you need time and fast Internet access. But it certainly makes it more accessible! Myself…

>studies have shown that overwhelmingly those already privileged take online courses

Why does the percentage matter? If 100 million people take MOOCs, and only 1% of them are poor and actually need them, then they still helped a million people! That's nothing to sneer at.

Second, what is your source, because I'm skeptical of that. And just because someone is "privileged" doesn't necessarily mean the courses have no value to them. They may have an education, but probably not in the thing they are studying on MOOCs. A bunch of people have learned about machine learning through MOOCs, for example.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by TeMPOraL »

furyofantares wrote: post #27
wpietri wrote: post #21

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> Really motivated people will [...] I'm not a big fan of this argument, which I see here too often. Really, truly motivated people don't need the Internet either. For any obstacle to learning, you can always say that it's not a problem because somebody, somewhere makes through. I took exactly one Coursera course, Odersky's Scala course. But it was a great experience. Going through the material on a schedule with a b…

Additionally, I think it's a misleading thought pattern to divide the world into motivated/unmotivated individuals since motivation can vary within a person. I've successfully learned quite a few difficult things without Coursera etc that I was highly motivated to learn. And I've learned more things via Coursera that I was less motivated to learn (or didn't even know I wanted to learn).

Also motivation can vary heavily by conditions. In some cases, the difference between strong motivation and utter lack of it can be structure that lets you start and maintain a feedback loop of positive feelings.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by agumonkey »

draven wrote: post #83
wibr wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I posted them, so that people can download them before end of this month.

I was about to suggest coordinating a bit to make a torrent for each course and avoid generating too much trafic downloading them, but it seems to be prohibited by the ToS ("You may download content from our Services only for your personal, non-commercial use, unless you obtain Coursera's written permission to otherwise use the content".)

Maybe a shared spreadsheet ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wUt5G0Kst8g5P0ftQqXk...

ps: First time I create and share a google sheet, so far I added the 3 that asked, sorry for the delay.

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by bhrgunatha »

unimpressive wrote: post #72
wibr wrote: post #66

https://class.coursera.org/ml-005/lecture Machine Learning, Andrew Ng https://class.coursera.org/algo-003/lecture Algorithms 1, Tim Roughgarden https://class.coursera.org/algo2-003/lecture Algorithms 2, Tim Roughgarden Edit: https://class.coursera.org/compilers/lecture/preview Compilers, Alex Aiken What else?

Is anybody else able to download the compilers course? I'm having trouble.

It's available from Stanford directly.

https://lagunita.stanford.edu/courses/Engineering/Compilers/...

Re: Coursera shuts access to old platform courses

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Post by r3bl »

aaggarwal wrote: post #61
lovelearning wrote: post #31

I feel Coursera's pricing strategy is located at two opposite extremes and misses out an entire range of options in the middle. They either make an entire course completely free with no option to pay even if the student wants to, or they put it behind a paywall where one can't even start without paying. They along with their institutional partners are missing out revenue from people like me who'd like to pay some amo…

I had been using such platforms (coursera, edX) since their inception, and they were delightfully helpful to me. They were free of cost at that time and I really appreciated that as a student. I feel a more apt pricing strategy would be to provide free/low-cost yearly access to students and a free basic course + paid advanced courses to non-students.

I would be more than happy to pay up to $200-$250 (note: close to half of my monthly salary) to get a yearly access to Coursera courses and not having to pay any additional money to them what so ever.

Now that I think about it, I would like to see that as an option.

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