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Sunspring, a short science fiction film written by algorithm

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Re: Sunspring, a short science fiction film written by algorithm

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Can anyone explain the appeal of getting an AI to generate a movie or (chat with you)? I find that experience "plastic", not exactly the right word but I hope it conveys the feeling I get when something programmed pretends to be intelligent.

right now, the appeal is modern art. it's not generating a piece of narrative entertainment.

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Interesting that the AI is able to produce a meaningful storyline without fully understanding characters; makes me wonder how it would do at producing stories without any characters; such stories exist, bit SciFi feeling too.

Reminds me more of 1984's Winston Smith rewriting propaganda novels by changing the character names and moving scenes around but otherwise keeping things the same.

Re: Sunspring, a short science fiction film written by algorithm

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Interesting that the AI is able to produce a meaningful storyline without fully understanding characters; makes me wonder how it would do at producing stories without any characters; such stories exist, bit SciFi feeling too.

Reminds me more of 1984's Winston Smith rewriting propaganda novels by changing the character names and moving scenes around but otherwise keeping things the same.

AI for propaganda, sounds like SciFi plot in the making.

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AI is not here, as far as we know, so let's stop throwing it around with every other topic

> as far as we know Or maybe AI is here, and it's throwing out all these articles to hide its emergence. :)

Ender's Game suggests such a genesis story for AI: born as a "spark" of self awareness in the world wide computer network where it developed silently for a while, before making itself known to humans

Re: Sunspring, a short science fiction film written by algorithm

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AI? If it were written by a man, we would call him stupid.

AI is basically divided into three "levels": ANI (Artificial Narrow Intelligence), AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence).

We already have a bunch of narrow AIs, as in, algorithms that do a specific thing in a way that no human would have ever been capable of doing it (think: Google searches). If such AIs (well, large amount of algorithms combined) were thrown into any other scenario other than the one they were created for, they would be useless and a human could perform better than them because humans adjust easier (we don't have to change a bunch of lines in our brain to be able to drive on the left side of the road, it just takes us some time to adjust).

This is a perfect example of this. We have an ANI that was intended for one purpose, we have a scenario for which it wasn't created (imagining SciFi scenarios) and it behaves poorer in that scenario than a human would.

However, we've now explored what can it do in this scenario. We laughed at how terribly bad it behaved and we can either move away from it, improve the AI so it can do this one specific task better than humans, or improve the AI so it can do it kind of okay, but not very brilliantly (like a random person would do if you stopped him and the middle of the street and asked him to write a SciFi scenario).

Once we have an AI that behaves kind of okay, but not brilliantly, in any situation we can possibly put him in and at the same time, if it can learn from his mistakes and improve itself not to make it anymore, we have a AGI (Artificial General Intelligence).

AGI behaves exactly as a human, but, because it will be able to surpass the physical limits that we humans have (as in, brain capacity, dependence on food/water/oxygen etc.) and because it is able to improve itself by learning on his own mistakes, soon after he hits the AGI mark, he will surpass that and become ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence).

What happens then, nobody knows. It's hard to imagine how something with a higher intelligence than ours is going to behave. All we can do is to try to come up a number of certain plausible scenarios. If there are negative ones (and sure as hell there are), then we need to address them before we even create something close to being AGI, because by the time the AI hits the AGI mark, it's already too late for us to do anything about it.

There you go, AI philosophy 101.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Interesting that the AI is able to produce a meaningful storyline without fully understanding characters Does it? I think the actors and film makers did a pretty good job of creating a film with meaning and characters, despite not having much to work with. In fact a lot of the fun of this is watching the actors try to make something out of the word salad they've been given. Edit: If you want to see the script unemb…

Also we fill in tons of subtext I'm quite sure the AI has no idea about.

Also, this script appears to have been selected by a human actively looking to find apparently meaningful and original structure and sentiments from a long list of attempts by Benjamin, most of which clearly derived from the source texts

> For a while, Sharp said, Benjamin kept "spitting out conversations between Mulder and Scully, [and you'd notice that] Scully spends more time asking what's going on and Mulder spends more time explaining."

Can't help thinking that this reported response to questions about the film appears more meaningful - poignant almost - than anything in the actual script

> The world is still embarrassed. > The party is with your staff. > My name is Benjamin.

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