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Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Goat are great ... funnily enough was just at a small sheep/goat farm yesterday. The goat's milk is salty (great for keto) and my lactose-intolerant gut can stand a glass or two. Plus the cheese is way tastier, milk has more fat etc. http://www.self-reliance.com/2015/12/why-not-add-a-dairy-goa...

Why is salty milk better for keto?

I think in keto, the kidneys flush sodium instead of retains it. If you're interested, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance by Volek and Phinney is a good read.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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My parents live in a village in Eastern Europe with less than $2 a day (I also chip in to financially help them), and they do indeed raise chickens, they've being doing that for the last 15 years or so, since they moved out to the countryside. Bill Gates is correct in his assessment, it's way more profitable to raise chickens than, say, cows. You need to have a bigger barn for cows, you need to do all the hay thing,…

> it's way more profitable to raise chickens than, say, cows. You need to have a bigger barn for cows, you need to do all the hay thing, which is very time consuming and demands a lot of extra work just for feeding said cows, you need to pay someone to take care of the cows when they go out to eat in the summer on the communal field. This is surprising to me. Of course a cow should be more work to raise than a chicke…

This a list of edible protein that can be grown per unit of land, soybeans and other legumes top the list along with hemp seeds, animal sources are the less efficient. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_protein_per_unit_area_o...

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Why is salty milk better for keto?

I think in keto, the kidneys flush sodium instead of retains it. If you're interested, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance by Volek and Phinney is a good read.

Thanks for the recommendation!

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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I think this is way out of line. (I also keep chickens, though not with the tractor I'm about to list): Here's a $300 chicken tractor, complete package: https://www.aosom.com/pawhut-96-wooden-backyard-hen-house-ch... Depending on your situation, you might not need much of a coop. I would expect you could get away with $100 in supplies, in the US--not using scavenged wood--if you didn't need an enclosure etc, and just…

Re selling chickens, that means a rooster, who when I had one ate a ton (and laid not one egg ;). Then the hens don't always get "broody", so you buy an incubator...shots for the chicks... I'm sure in 3rd world they make it work, but the cost is non-0. I have no doubt my coop was over engineered and way more expensive than it should be.(I'm a software developer ;) The biggest cost was wire, and also includes wire fen…

I'm a developer, too! I probably have a smaller coop than you.

In truth, mine was already on the property, but I've looked at a lot of them. I dislike the one I have and want to rebuild it. Someday.

I'm also blessed with a small creek for watering them, and they have plenty of room to range and therefore mostly feed themselves.

I chose breeds that are known to be broody, and I typically have at least one broody hen at all times. Right now, I have two. I'm not letting them hatch anything out, though. In truth it seems to be just two particular hens that get broody off and on, so perhaps I was just lucky. I'm fairly new to this game, myself.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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The way chickens are raised today, you'd be insane to raise chickens. Chickens of the old, roamed the grass, picking little shits that no one could find or eat, growing slowly but steadily, surviving and mating. Today, they gorge on soybean-B12 juice that was raised on ex-rainforest area. It's highly unsustainable and ridiculously bad investment. Bill Gates has previously written about meat and its sustainability and…

This is a clear troll. Absolutely nothing said by this poster has anything to do with the actual article. Additionally, the user account is only 13 days old. Moderators, please kill this account and postings.

I don't see the troll on it. He expressed his points of view, related to the article. I agree that meat isn't a long lasting solution (I eat meat, by the way). I think plants agriculture is. Chickens for short term? Yes.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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> it's way more profitable to raise chickens than, say, cows. You need to have a bigger barn for cows, you need to do all the hay thing, which is very time consuming and demands a lot of extra work just for feeding said cows, you need to pay someone to take care of the cows when they go out to eat in the summer on the communal field. This is surprising to me. Of course a cow should be more work to raise than a chicke…

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Whitelisting every site disabled by Ghostery (or whatever tracker-blocker someone uses) kinda defeats the purpose of having it in the first place.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Why would you think that? Larger animals are usually much more energy efficient for various reasons - less surface area to radiate heat, and economies of scale with larger organs.

No, beef and lamb are the most energy consuming sources of meat. (A dairy producing cow is different.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_conversion_ratio For cattle, a FCR range from less than 5 to more than 20 kg feed dry matter per kg gain may be encountered.[ Whereas for chickens: Poultry has a feed conversion ratio of 2 to 1.

I believe you, but I'm very surprised. That has larger animals almost universally less efficient than smaller animals, which is the exact opposite of the expected efficiency due to Kleiber's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleiber%27s_law

>a cat, having a mass 100 times that of a mouse, will have a metabolism roughly 32 times greater than that of a mouse.

And yet this is saying that a mice sized animal should be expected to have the same, or perhaps even better Feed conversion ratio than a cat sized animal.

Again, I believe you, but it makes no sense.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Option B is liable to cause inflation if not executed extremely carefully.

Option A increases the supply of chickens, so other things being equal the price of a chicken decreases. But people (aid recipients) are better off since they can eat more chicken. Option B slightly increases the supply of money, so other things being equal prices of basic goods increase a little. But people are still better off since they can buy more stuff.

Option B is also good because if (in their opinion) the superior case is A, they can use the money to implement A themselves. And if A was inferior for some reason (eg, need medicine now or die before said chickens mature) then the recipient could choose an alternate path .

IMO this is why cash is the ultimate form of aid, it allows the recipient to do your "great idea" or whatever else is optimal in their case.

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