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Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

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Thank God, all of this should be coming to an end any day now.

Son appointed judge, family clan as associates in law-firm... The world does not work this way.

The president appoints federal judges. Not too likely that he's thinking about how to rig the patent court in East Texas.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#402

I find it oddly funny how Google hasn't stepped in to support their "clients", I'd think they'd help shutdown patent trolls so developers can continue to improve and distribute applications

"We want all the freedom Apple doesn't offer!"

"Why are we forced to fight for ourselves?!"

Sure...

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#403

Really seems like Google/Apple should make some kind of statement calling out how ridiculous these lawsuits are.

What these tech giants need to do is collude, but this time instead of colluding to screw over their employees by not "poaching" them, they need to collude to cut off all their services to this district of East Texas. Screw over the morons living in this area whose economy lives off this leaching, and also make it so many patent lawsuits can be easily dismissed because the internet services these patents supposedly cover won't be available there, so they can argue the venue is inappropriate.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#404

I find it oddly funny how Google hasn't stepped in to support their "clients", I'd think they'd help shutdown patent trolls so developers can continue to improve and distribute applications

"We want all the freedom Apple doesn't offer!" "Why are we forced to fight for ourselves?!" Sure...

This is a platform that millions use, this isn't a simple freedom that developers don't have for not using Apple's platform. If Google doesn't support their developers, even if they've already made millions, Google will lose a decent amount of market after developers leave their platform because of these law suits. Imagine 2 or 3 of Googles major games dropping support for Android because law suits they lost in court.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#405

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Even when trolls lose, they're typically shell companies with no assets, so they can't pay for the legal fees of the winner (they just go bankrupt) and the winner still loses in terms of money.

Wouldn't they stand to loose their patents if they declare bankruptcy?

Spin off a shell corp for each individual patent that is litigated, if a loss ever occurs, the only thing "on the line" in a bankruptcy is the single patent that presumably just lost.

IANAL, but I suspect this is exceedingly rare.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#406

I'm no advocate of violence but this makes you wonder about the ethics of beating such guys up. The legal system seems pointless.

You're wondering about the ethics of beating someone up to get what you want?

I hate to point it out, but history is littered with examples of cases where following the law and using non-violent diplomatic approaches failed, necessitating the use of violence (in the eyes of those who felt they had no recourse). It's the very reason just about every nation has a military, for instance.

In a nutshell, if you think beating someone up to get what you want is wrong, then you must necessarily think that military force is wrong, and maintaining a military force is also wrong.

You can also look at some pretty extreme examples: if you're a Jew in 1930-something Germany or one of the nations it occupied, and a bunch of soldiers are coming to take you to the camps, is it unethical for you to use violence against them? Of course, you might argue that's a bad example because the other side already initiated the use of (or threat of; they're carrying guns) violence so you had the right of self-defense. But that's no different than having a legal system that you feel is unjust: if you don't agree with the legal system's ruling and resist or ignore it, then they'll send men with guns to force you into submission using violence.

Now you can argue that there's a huge difference in magnitude between being taken to death camps and losing a patent case and having to give a large sum of money to a patent troll, but I think the principle is the same, it's just a difference in degree. All human conflict is like this: we have systems we try to use to avoid solving our differences with violence, but at times, these systems fail and at least one party feels the price/risk is worth it. Luckily, if you look at the entirety of human history, the amount of violence has been steadily falling, and we're probably at the least violent point in history, if you look at humanity as a whole.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#407

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My view is admittedly a bit on the extreme side (to put it mildly) but I'd see it as similar to hunting Somali pirates or Congolese poachers for sport. There are things a human can do to set themselves apart from the rest of humanity, and patent trolling is one of them. Patent trolls don't rise (sink) to the level of child molesters, serial killers or ISIS terrorists, but still... I wouldn't shed any tears if somethi…

I think it is important to acknowledge why people do things they do. - Somali pirates and Congolese poachers: poor and miserable conditions with no perspective to get out of it - patent trolls: greedy, moral-less legal positivists - serial killers: psychopaths - ISIS terrorists: brainwashed losers, who want easy answers, a mission, a group and a leader - child molesters: I would say mentally ill If you see it like th…

I don't know how you can "fix" paedophilia, any more than you can "fix" psychopathy. AFAICT, they're both mental disorders that are very deep-seated and probably unfixable, at least until we have better biomedical technology and a better understanding of the human brain. There's probably ways we might be able to identify these people as high-risk and put them in programs to monitor them and help them avoid committing crimes, but that's more of a work-around than a fix.

Patent trolls aren't much different from serial killers, though: they're both socio/psychopaths (same thing really). Patent trolls aren't violent, and are greedy for money, that's the main difference. But the law itself you could say is a work-around for problems like this, but as we see here the law is broken and needs to be fixed because the sociopaths have figured out a way to abuse the law for their gain.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#408

America needs to follow New Zealand's example: Ban software patents!

Software is not patentable in Brazil either. Honest question: have anyone seen any software innovation been really protected by a patent litigation? All articles I have seen are about trolls.

Well if you're going to ask that question, I'm going to ask a corollary:

Has anyone seen any innovation that has been really protected by patents, that couldn't have been protected merely with trade secrets and industrial capability (i.e., big companies are physically and organizationally able to make things that small companies cannot due to their resources, therefore they're really the last ones to need patent protection, but they're also the ones most able to afford spending huge sums of money on patent fees and enforcement)?

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

#409

Would incorporating your tech company in England instead of the USA protect your company from these patent troll lawsuits? It's extremely easy to start a company based in England, even as a US citizen living in the USA. With the patent trolling this out of control in the US at the moment, would basing your company abroad offer you any protection?

Yes, if your product or service is only available in England.

No, if you sell your product or service in the US (or at least East Texas). It doesn't matter where your company is incorporated, it only matters where you do business.

Re: Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Store [video]

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Seriously - what the fuck Google? It's only a matter of time until a patent troll writes a for loop on the store index to send out infringement suits DMCA-takedown style.

> It's only a matter of time until a patent troll writes a for loop on the store index to send out infringement suits DMCA-takedown style. Perhaps a competing troll owns the iteration patent.

Simple, you instead just write

    totalMoney = googlePlayAuthors.reduce((money, author) => money + abusePatentSystem(author), 0)
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