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Re: We Only Hire the Best

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Post by nazka »

Yhippa wrote: post #69
johngalt wrote: post #37

Experience tells me that hiring posts that demand this level of excellence are often covering for weaknesses in their process. "We only hire the best!" The best at what? "The best at everything of course. We want a full stack wish fulfillment genie." Either you have no idea what skills are missing from your current team, or they are all missing, and you want to fill that gap with one person rather than a team. Job po…

Here are some of my favorite lazy hiring manager practices: * asking for "everything but the kitchen sink" skills * confusing Java with Javascript * even mentioning J2EE in the requisiton (who on Earth wants to do that in this day and age?) * copy-pasting of the requisition leading to truncation of the posting

Or like the 'Spark +5 years of experience minimum' type of offers we had 2 years ago. Now it's Tensorflow.

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Post by ArkyBeagle »

stillworks wrote: post #163
ArkyBeagle wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So there's no interest at all in lighting up the assholes? Pity; its great sport. What, you think you'll be fired?

The biggest ones tend to reek real bad and most of the time all you have is a matchstick to light them up. Most of them big'uns come from the "network above".

It's not to be done lightly. But there are times...

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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Post by technofiend »

leroy_masochist wrote: post #12

One other aspect of "we only hire the best" that wasn't explored by this article is the practice -- especially common among unicorn companies -- of purposely casting a far wider net than needed, so that their hiring yield on applicants is dauntingly low. The recruiting process is deliberately set up to yield a lot of false negatives -- i.e., applicants who are qualified on both skill and fit who are rejected for some…

Try reading The Hard Thing About Hard Things and not rolling your eyes the 10th time Horowitz brags about hiring the best of the best of the best. If you took him literally no other company stood a chance against him since he had a lock on all of Silicon Valley's top talent.

Perhaps it builds the perception in those hired they are in fact the best.

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Post by st3v3r »

sliverstorm wrote: post #169
st3v3r wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A place that says "We want people who are motivated by more than just money" isn't going to be the place that is going to take kindly to someone using up their (probably meager) amount of vacation each year.

You're probably right about "read between the lines", but still, even just as a worker I'd prefer to work with people who are here for more than just collecting a paycheck.

Most people would, but I'd also like to get paid very well while doing it. Most of the places that emphasize "we don't want people here just for a paycheck" end up being very shitty places to work, as they try to make your entire life be work.

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Post by monknomo »

jazzyk wrote: post #184
monknomo wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But those seem mostly like chief investment officers, CEOs, doctors, dentists and surgeons... I mean, public service can pay well if you are a commissioner or head of a for-profit part of public service. I'm not sure there is much of a comparison to be made for software developers, though.

I was just pointing out that public service can pay as well as private sector - if not better (pensions at 80% pay!).

Except for police and the already retired I don't think you see a lot of pensions at 80% pay anymore.

FERS gives you 1.1%years of servicehigh 3 average salary, which is about 40% salary for a lifetime of service.

The NYPD give 2.1%years of serviceaverage salary and early retirement at 20 years of service (less 50% social security upon that kicking in) which is a hell of a good deal, but hardly representative of what most government workers get. I think they are probably among the only 80% pay.

You also end up with the (generally state) government worker problem of the government just deciding that paying your pension is expensive, and then having it reduced or removed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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Re: We Only Hire the Best

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