Why no one cares about privacy anymore
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Why no one cares about privacy anymore
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#2Voluntary transparency is good for reputation and good for business. However, I choose not to live in a glass house. To those who demand to know what I'm trying to hide, I demand to know what they're trying to steal.
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"If the government doesn't value the privacy of criminals, and the government is invading your privacy, then they must think you're a criminal. And if the government thinks your a criminal, who am I to argue?"
No, it lacks logic, it's not really fair, and it does stoop to their level. But damn, it sure does feel good in the short term, and frankly, puts them on the defensive.
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#5Wow. I don’t claim to know specifically where the line between “journalism” and “propaganda piece” lies but I think this article crosses it.
The way I see it this article’s points fall into two categories.
The first is using alarmists as examples and pretending no one else is concerned about privacy. Yes, the folks who thought Google Street View was an invasion of privacy were a little extreme but they certainly don’t represent the only people who are concerned about keeping things private.
The second thing this article does is to obscure the point with restrictive surveys. Yes, teens generally don’t care about their privacy because they don’t have professional reputations to up hold or jobs to lose. It’s when you start building a life for yourself that you realize how tragic it would be to lose your lifestyle because you said something stupid on Facebook. So using teens as your only data point is misleading.
In the end this is a Google propaganda piece IMHO. Google benefits from things being public because the more public stuff that’s out there the more ads they can sell. It’s hard to make money off a private profile that’s only visible to someone’s immediate friends and family.
(On that note, what's CNet thinking having a reporter who is married to a company employee cover that company?)
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#6for what it's worth i just gave up on gmail over privacy. i've returned to mutt via ssh. i realise that's probably too old-school for most, but i've been making notes if anyone want to do the same. http://www.acooke.org/cute/LeavingGMa0.html is the first post with the general setup (in particular, using mairix to replace gmail's tags and search) and http://www.acooke.org/cute/EfficientS0.html goes into detail about how to get spam levels down to the same low level as gmail (ie practically none).
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#7I know I'm greatly generalizing here, but when it comes to privacy there are two types of people: good people with legitimate things to hide and bad people with bad things to hide. Knowledge is everything. If I know the government is logging my chats and I'm in the "good people" category, I'll try not to say anything I don't want public and at the same time hope they are catching the "bad people" by logging their chats too.
But does that mean we only care about the privacy of good people? Or do we justify breaching the privacy of good people in order to "protect" them from the information bad people might have?
For me, I'll give up a lot of my privacy if it means less savory characters are stopped from doing bad things. But it's a fine line, and it can be crossed when so much of my privacy is given up that it becomes dangerous to me because of the usefulness or sensitivity of the information divulged.
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The death of privacy is quickly being carried out by the age of false privacy. It's the age of not knowing who is hearing what or even know how much you are sharing; but more so, it's the age of cover-up, where you buy privacy by putting forth a salted self. Those immersed in social media are getting increasingly apt at concealing the bad and accentuating the good. Personal blogging is usually nothing more than an exercise in deception. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. I don't want to know your dirty secrets.
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#8Wow. I don’t claim to know specifically where the line between “journalism” and “propaganda piece” lies but I think this article crosses it. The way I see it this article’s points fall into two categories. The first is using alarmists as examples and pretending no one else is concerned about privacy. Yes, the folks who thought Google Street View was an invasion of privacy were a little extreme but they certainly don’…
It seems Declan has come a long way from the days when he actually added new content to Politech. (http://www.politechbot.com)
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#9I understand that there isn't a commonly accepted term for "I'm creeped out by how much information about me is available", but we need to stop using "privacy". If we keep throwing the word around it will lose all meaning.
Someone taking a picture of your street and putting it on the internet doesn't violate your privacy. Someone making use of information that you volunteered to a social networking site doesn't violate your privacy, either. Online advertising relates to privacy in only the most extreme of cases - where somehow spyware is installed on your computer that records what software you use and how you use it. Tracking cookies do not violate your privacy.
If you legitimately have something to hide, you won't be found out by online advertising, facebook or even google. There is very little online that can gather information about you that you don't volunteer in some way. Can anyone think of a case where someone's life was significantly impacted by the exposure of private information online?
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#10Voluntary transparency is good for reputation and good for business. However, I choose not to live in a glass house. To those who demand to know what I'm trying to hide, I demand to know what they're trying to steal.
trying to steal? what? edit: my point is that telling the people you're trying to convince that they are somehow stealing, is not helping our cause.