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Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

#51
This isn't the first program of this type, so he's not going into it blind. See this for one example: http://www.cityfarmer.info/2013/11/15/gaza-urban-rabbit-rais...

I also remember reading about a rabbit raising program in the Philippines several years back, but I can't find a reference to it.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

#52
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order of severity: 1. Family ends up homeless because there is no legal framework to raise small anymals in urban environments, and the flock is framed as "unruly pets" by abusive landlord/neighbours. Family ends up worse than how they started without help. 2. Family receives the flock, but not any training/resources to tend them properly. Chickens die of illness, malnourishment, or get killed by urban predators (…

My family has raised chickens in the backyard for decades. Getting them killed by predators isn't difficult but I wouldn't worry too much about a cat - it is unlikely to take more than one or two adults and the young chickens would likely be more secure/with an adult hen and they are quite good at keeping their young safe. Regarding malnurisment, you can literally just let the chickens walk around and eat grass, inse…

I live in typical suburbia in Virginia USA. My youngest has a chinese friend whose family raises chickens in their yard. I'm pretty sure this is against zoning. They share their chicken and some wonderful vegetables from their gardens with the closest neighbors. So far, so good. I expect this will not persist.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the impression that's for a fully grown chicken sold for meat. I have no idea how big those chickens are. In North America live chickens sell for between 30 and 50 cents a pound. The chickens in the video look like small roasters, definitely under 10 pounds.

how am I able to buy a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store for $5? seems like I've getting pretty much everything that's economically viable from the chicken, plus a fair amount of labor put into the chicken

Well, the rotisserie chicken is very likely grown on a massively capital-intensive assembly line, and quite possibly delivered frozen.

Those options are likely not available to the people this is trying to help.

Also: fresh, free-range, "organic" chicken costs more like $3.00-$5.00 per pound in most areas.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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> If you read this article, watch the video above, and answer one question below, I will donate—on your behalf via Heifer—a flock of chickens to a family in poverty. Giving a flock of chickens to desperately poor families sounds like a great idea that will pay dividends for many years. However, I can't help but be reminded of the many charitable programs that sound great but end up having very unusual unintended cons…

In order of severity: 1. Family ends up homeless because there is no legal framework to raise small anymals in urban environments, and the flock is framed as "unruly pets" by abusive landlord/neighbours. Family ends up worse than how they started without help. 2. Family receives the flock, but not any training/resources to tend them properly. Chickens die of illness, malnourishment, or get killed by urban predators (…

You obviously come from a 1st world country if your main worry is n.1

It's not an issue. Especially as in the video it is seen it is pretty common

There might be some "official concerns" (read: someone looking for a bribe) but that's quickly taken care of

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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post #52
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My family has raised chickens in the backyard for decades. Getting them killed by predators isn't difficult but I wouldn't worry too much about a cat - it is unlikely to take more than one or two adults and the young chickens would likely be more secure/with an adult hen and they are quite good at keeping their young safe. Regarding malnurisment, you can literally just let the chickens walk around and eat grass, inse…

I live in typical suburbia in Virginia USA. My youngest has a chinese friend whose family raises chickens in their yard. I'm pretty sure this is against zoning. They share their chicken and some wonderful vegetables from their gardens with the closest neighbors. So far, so good. I expect this will not persist.

> I'm pretty sure this is against zoning.

Perhaps, but you might be surprised. Years ago I kept chickens and checked the zoning here (suburbs of Phoenix). No problem with a flock of hens. Roosters have restrictions. Many places are similar.

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

#58

If you want to raise backyard chicks, double check your local chicken ordinances! Unfortunately, even when they are allowed, it can be the source of tension between neighbors: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/27/nation/la-na-nn-back...

In the UK, the 1950 Allotments Act trumps all other covenants and local ordinances, provided you're only keeping hens and they are not a nuisance (and despite the name, the Act in this instance applies to keeping hens anywhere).

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/14/31

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

#59
Pretty much all research has shown that the best way to improve poverty is to give people money, and not some sort of good that you've decided is better (goats, chickens, cows, whatever). Unfortunately, giving away money just doesn't sell. :(

Re: Why I Would Raise Chickens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the impression that's for a fully grown chicken sold for meat. I have no idea how big those chickens are. In North America live chickens sell for between 30 and 50 cents a pound. The chickens in the video look like small roasters, definitely under 10 pounds.

how am I able to buy a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store for $5? seems like I've getting pretty much everything that's economically viable from the chicken, plus a fair amount of labor put into the chicken

Rotisserie chickens are often a loss leader for grocery stores[0].

0- http://debtblag.com/why-rotisserie-chickens-so-cheap/

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