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Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

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Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#11
>The largest part that we have found ... the biggest benefit has been the identity theft,

Oh, so if I have a card in someone else's name, you'll charge it, thus causing someone who doesn't even know about it to lose?

Any lawyers here want to weigh in on whether this would be identity theft/credit card fraud/etc on the part of the police and hence illegal? Isn't scanning/charging a card without authorization illegal?

Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#14
This can't possibly be legal or even technically feasible. The victim can call her bank and report a fraudulent transaction, which pits the bank against a warrantless seizure that's impossible to defend in court. Surely banks can catch on and frontload an "identity protection" mechanism that'll simply block transactions from anything matching "ERAD" or however they identify themselves to the ACH.

It's doubtful that local or state PDs have enough political pull or money to battle banks over this through the court system.

Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#16
This reads like The Onion. I can't believe they're serious.

>"If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized.

... Legit reason? How am I supposed to prove where every cent came from? What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#17
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> Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money. Given the low-threshold for seizure and how we've seen civil-asset forfeiture exercised by law enforcement, that's terrifying.

Agreed:

"We've seen single mom's stuff be taken, a cancer survivor his drugs taken, we saw a Christian band being taken. We've seen innocent people's stuff being taken. We've seen where the money goes and how it's been misspent," Loveless said.

It boggles the mind that this doesn't violate due process.

Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#18
So we can't carry cash, because they'll seize that directly. This device could probably do some sort of run around the new chip system in cards. Bitcoin is nearly useless in the real world. So where does that leave us? Google & Apple Pay on our phones? At least our phones can be password protected.

Re: Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards

#20
I think part of this is just shoddy reporting from a local news source, I believe this is tech they're talking about.

https://www.erad-group.com/fci

While the implications here are certainly pretty creepy, this seems more like something to use in investigations of money laundering, etc.

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