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Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by pacofvf »

Maultasche wrote: post #48
oblio wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

German-Americans are (were?) the largest group in the US. It almost seems a miracle that German didn't become the main language in the US. I guess that since the dominant groups were English-speaking they had to adapt in order to get jobs.

Back then, it was like Spanish is in California. You see it everywhere, a huge number of people speak it, and there are a lot of Spanish-language media. However, English is still the dominant language. German used to be everywhere, being heard in the streets, with large numbers of German-language newspapers and cultural clubs. The Germans, being Germans, liked to organize themselves into clubs. It gradually died out,…

> and the language will slowly decline.

I wouldn't be so sure for that one, the thing is unlike German, there is a country with 120M of Spanish Speaking people a few miles away, as Mexico's GDP keeps growing, US economy will become even more dependent of Mexico's trade. My point is people will get more proficient at Spanish over time, not less.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by matthewmcg »

PoorBloke123 wrote: post #41

Since this page states" "Most illegal immigration is not included" I'd like to see one of these representing the flow of illegal immigrants (especially from and across Mexico) since Obama won his first election (and second).

Here are some data based on community surveys. These show a net outflow during that period:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/what-we-know...

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by kilroy123 »

dmoy wrote: post #60
notahacker wrote: post #57

Coincidentally, I saw these state by state migrant origin maps for each decade in animated form on Twitter this morning (showing numbers resident rather than numbers flowing in) http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/09/28/from-ireland-to-german... Some predictable phenomena (Cubans being the most common migrant group in Florida from 1970 onwards, Mexicans being the most common migrants in Texas and the West Coast initially…

RE: Laos in Minnesota Good chance this is actually a lot of Hmong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Hmong_in_Minnea... (source: went to school in the 90s in Minnesota, like 30% of my classmates were Hmong) Similar deal with Somali in Minneapolis - once there's critical mass of a given group in a given city, it increases the immigration pull because there's a support network. Right: if you do local stuff i…

Definitely Hmong, they sent all Hmongs to Fresno, California and Minneapolis–Saint Paul.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by notahacker »

dmoy wrote: post #60
notahacker wrote: post #57

Coincidentally, I saw these state by state migrant origin maps for each decade in animated form on Twitter this morning (showing numbers resident rather than numbers flowing in) http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/09/28/from-ireland-to-german... Some predictable phenomena (Cubans being the most common migrant group in Florida from 1970 onwards, Mexicans being the most common migrants in Texas and the West Coast initially…

RE: Laos in Minnesota Good chance this is actually a lot of Hmong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Hmong_in_Minnea... (source: went to school in the 90s in Minnesota, like 30% of my classmates were Hmong) Similar deal with Somali in Minneapolis - once there's critical mass of a given group in a given city, it increases the immigration pull because there's a support network. Right: if you do local stuff i…

I understand the benefits of diasporas settling in one city, just surprised it's one in Minnesota.

In the UK the smaller diasporas all seem to end up concentrated in London. My favourite exception to this is Ugandan Asians fleeing Idi Amin, the majority of whom chose to settle in Leicester, a city many of them first heard of through adverts Leicester City Council took out in the Ugandan press addressed to "the many families in Uganda considering coming to Leicester" urging them not to come; they've been one of the UK's most successful minority groups ever since.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by jlarocco »

freshyill wrote: post #65
josho wrote: post #5

I love new ways to express data. But, as I see animations like this I become a little anxious as I'd like to absorb the information, but if I look too closely in one area then I risk missing a bigger pattern or trend. After watching, I'm convinced that a good old line chart would have been a better representation of the data. Perhaps with some added dynamic behaviour.

At least it's not a YouTube video. I've seen some really cool videos that I wished were interactive, for things like territory changes during WWII.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how this is any more interactive than a YouTube video.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by vacri »

bongdongAU wrote: post #63
leighmcculloch wrote: post #32

Australia has very little immigration to the US it seems.

Who, living in Australia, would want to immigrate to US? Most of the people I know would be happy to go as far as Hawaii (for a holiday) but moving to US from Downunder.......hmm.......you would have to have a good bloody reason, especially given the possible outcome of the upcoming elections. As for the rest of the countries mapped on this viz, I totally understand.

The people who I've personally known that migrated from Aus to the US do so for very lucrative economic reasons (job in software development or Hollywood) or for love. I don't think anyone is going to move in either direction between the two countries in search of a significantly better life.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by tstrimple »

jobesian4lyfe wrote: post #35
ktRolster wrote: post #33

In the last 10 years, immigration has really picked up from all over the world, whereas earlier it was just a few countries.

That's because in the last ten years, America has proven to have a great quality of life. Clean roads, better facilities and plenty of well paying jobs.

How has it proven that? What I find interesting is that early on, our immigrants were predominantly from developed nations. Over time, this shifted more and more to developing nations. To me that seems to indicate that we're not seen as the land of opportunity among first world nations any longer. There are better options with more economic mobility and social services. Unless gun ownership is your primary motivating factor for immigration, there are many places where the working poor are better off going.

Re: Show HN: Map of immigration to the U.S. since 1820

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Post by yvsong »

k__ wrote: post #7

Didn't know so much Germans came to the US back in the days.

Great data visualization for learning a little more American history. Seems one more piece of evidence that the mainstream American culture is set by the British and German, or the original English and German speakers, and luckily so. Think about the rigorous constitution, logical reasoning, rule of law, and the founding fathers, etc. (from someone without British or German root, otherwise the "political correctness" would kick in).
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