Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
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Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
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Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#2Will he learn from the matches against Lee Sedol? Will Alpha Go become even more advanced (ie, have more hardware added)?
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#3Will he learn from the matches against Lee Sedol? Will Alpha Go become even more advanced (ie, have more hardware added)?
Considering he's beaten Lee Sedol and Gu Li, who knows how this will play out.
But no doubt he'll talk to Sedol about his take away from playing AlphaGo, especially since part of playing against any computer is reverse engineering its decision tree.
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#4Will he learn from the matches against Lee Sedol? Will Alpha Go become even more advanced (ie, have more hardware added)?
I'm guessing that AlphaGo has been doing more learning. Studying Sedol's games is probably a good platform but certainly not a plan to win - Jie needs to go in expecting the unexpected. Just look at how different the games were between Hui and Sedol.
To answer your question more directly: giving AlphaGo more hardware would only give it more CPU cycles to work with (faster decisions, not necessarily good ones). The true improvement will likely come from the very same source that humans get it: practice and mastery.
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#5Will he learn from the matches against Lee Sedol? Will Alpha Go become even more advanced (ie, have more hardware added)?
Considering he's beaten Lee Sedol and Gu Li, who knows how this will play out. But no doubt he'll talk to Sedol about his take away from playing AlphaGo, especially since part of playing against any computer is reverse engineering its decision tree.
There were some games with Gu Li? Could you point me to them? I can't seem to find them.
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering he's beaten Lee Sedol and Gu Li, who knows how this will play out. But no doubt he'll talk to Sedol about his take away from playing AlphaGo, especially since part of playing against any computer is reverse engineering its decision tree.
There were some games with Gu Li? Could you point me to them? I can't seem to find them.
Gu Li and Ke Jie played each other (in a jubango -- a ten game series -- in 2014: an excellent series of games!). AlphaGo did not play Gu Li unfortunately.
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
There were some games with Gu Li? Could you point me to them? I can't seem to find them.
Gu Li and Ke Jie played each other (in a jubango -- a ten game series -- in 2014: an excellent series of games!). AlphaGo did not play Gu Li unfortunately.
Ah, I read that wrong, I thought he meant Alphago not Ke Jie.
Exciting times, I can't wait. I guess the later the game will be, the less chance Ke Jie has.
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#8Google probably will have many times the ASICs compared to what it had against Lee Sedol, and there have been lots of new tricks in the past few months with convolutional networks that increased learning speed and accuracy of the learned model. It would be a huge win for Ke Jie even if he could win only 1 game.
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#9Context: http://www.goratings.org/
An interesting thing about that rating site is that it uses Whole-History Rating, a system developed by Remi Coulom which takes the entire match history into account.
After the Sedol vs. AlphaGo games, you could reasonably ask if Sedol was on top of his game, or if his losses were in part a product of a declining rating of his own. WHR effectively considers this possibility, and the similar possibility in all matches - you could say the long-term impact of a match doesn't stabilize after both participants have played a few more games.
AlphaGo has been steadily climbing in this rating. Sedol doesn't appear to be in decline, in fact he had an 8-win streak right after the AlphaGo matches (ended by Gu Li just recently).
Re: Ke Jie will likely play AlphaGo before year's end
#10This will be interesting. After it's first game win against Lee Sedol, Ke was very confident he could beat Alphago, but the later games against Lee revealed further unexpected strengths in Alphago's capabilities. I think everyone, including Ke Jie know that eventually Alphago will be unbeatable so I think it's important and useful to have a match soon when Alphago's game is still improving but potentially close to human level. I think a match at this stage would be much more revealing about how AI systems like this develop and improve than a game say in a few years time when the computer player just steamrolls to victory every game.