Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud

Post by eru » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 4:59 AM UTC

vostok wrote: post #33

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Also many of these consultancy firms just flood the H1B application pool and then just take whoever got accepted. Very unfair.

This is why I strongly believe that H1Bs should be given out to employees that are offered the highest salary. Clearly there is no shortage if you are not willing to pay one of the highest salaries. Yea, this wouldn't be perfect, but it's much better than the significantly more gameable lottery system we have now.

Post by eru » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 5:02 AM UTC

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You're aware that not every H1B is a developer right? Your proposal would change the whole basis of the program in a way that doesn't seem particularly thought out. What about people who are botanists, or harpsichord teachers?

Easy fix -- give the visas to the highest paid people in each job category. After you've gone through each category once, do it again for the next highest paid. Eventually you'll run out of harpsichord teachers and so the more popular categories would keep getting filled until the quota was reached. Then you get highly paid people and you get a nice cross section of skillsets, and it incentivizes the companies to pay…

Post by enraged_camel » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 5:05 AM UTC

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enraged_camel wrote: post #73

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>>This is because the program as-is does not restrict people from changing jobs. It just requires a sponsorship. It doesn't technically restrict them, but the window for changing jobs is so short that the employees are practically anchored to the employer. In addition to the short window, changing jobs during H1B also resets the immigrant's place in the green card queue, which can cost them years and years of progres…

You didn't process my comment fully. I was referring to the downward pressure on all wages (and U.S. workers in particular), not those of H1-B holders. This (and my entire comment) was a rebuttal of the GP and should be read in that context. Having workers stay in the country without jobs increases labor supply, which means lower wages for U.S. workers, contrary to the GP's counter-intuitive assertion. It's simple su…

Post by eva1984 » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 5:08 AM UTC

eru wrote: post #122

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I think what he means is, startups can't deal with the uncertainty and lead times the current H-1B system imposes. Large companies just project how many openings they would have in October next year, hire appropriately, and park them in offshore offices if they didn't make the lottery. And they can afford the application fee too

An auction system would have far less uncertainty.

Post by bduerst » Mon, Jun 06, 2016, 5:12 AM UTC

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This would make it easier to game, especially for wealthy immigrants who want to buy a visa to get a green card. Also the H1B visa is for hundreds of different job classifications at different prevailing wages - are you saying there should be an auction for each? How will visas be distributed fairly amongst them?

Those people are a small portion of H1B visas, if at all, and all it means that instead of a %50 to %100 chance that they get it 'this year' doing it, it's a %100 chance. They also have other options like an L1 visa which is another %100 chance in a year and then can get a green card at the highest priority level as an international executive afterwards. Or they can open a mcdonalds franchise somewhere in a bad part…