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Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also many of these consultancy firms just flood the H1B application pool and then just take whoever got accepted. Very unfair.
This is why I strongly believe that H1Bs should be given out to employees that are offered the highest salary. Clearly there is no shortage if you are not willing to pay one of the highest salaries. Yea, this wouldn't be perfect, but it's much better than the significantly more gameable lottery system we have now.
You're aware that not every H1B is a developer right? Your proposal would change the whole basis of the program in a way that doesn't seem particularly thought out.
What about people who are botanists, or harpsichord teachers?
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a bidding system for H1Bs would quickly resolve all these issues.
That will make company like MS/Google/FB/AMAZN, invincible. Startups are going to be starved. They will not have that much leverage to recruit desired talents.
Are you saying startups could not compete without "cheap" H1B labor?!
The H1B is explicitly not supposed to bring in cheaper labor.
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a bidding system for H1Bs would quickly resolve all these issues.
That will make company like MS/Google/FB/AMAZN, invincible. Startups are going to be starved. They will not have that much leverage to recruit desired talents.
otoh, artificially allowing startups to get cheap engineers means that these or some other engineers are deprived of an opportunity to make a lot more money at Google/Facebook. Engineers are thus being exploited by unethical employers flooding the system
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
A much better solution would to remove any barriers an H1B worker has to shop for a better job. If we want to live an egalitarian society, it's in our collective interest for immigrants to earn as much as the rest of us. That only happens when we dismantle systems that provide an incentive to exploit immigrants.
You're describing the entire framework of immigration, from green cards to citizenship, which already exists. You can say the H1B component should be removed, but business leaders will cry bloody murder if a whiff of that legislation ever crosses the transom.
The main problem with the current system is that there is no way for a H-1B holder to progress to a Green Card without employer sponsorship. This puts all the power in the hands of the employer with such sponsorships difficult to get these days.
A better solution would be to allow a H-1B worker in good standing to convert to a green card after 4 years without any kind of employer sponsorship needed.
This would bring the US in line with other developed countries that typically allow temporary workers to convert to permanent residents after a period of time independent of their employer.
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#86Whoops!
Forgot to make their donations to their elected official.
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Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you seriously saying that foreign students subsidize the education of US citizens? That is one of the most absurd statements I've ever read on HN. US student's educations are paid for by student loans, they fund their own tuitions I can assure you. Attending university in the US is a privilege and that does not mean you should be guaranteed a job in the United States upon graduation. You seem to have a real sense…
>Are you seriously saying that foreign students subsidize the education of US citizens? That is one of the most absurd statements I've ever read on HN. US student's educations are paid for by student loans, they fund their own tuitions I can assure you. The GP is correct, domestic students rarely, if ever, pay the true cost of attendance at colleges and universities (hereafter, called 'schools') [1]. The are taxpayer…
What tax payer subsidies? Please explain because I am not aware of any.
If you are talking about the 501c3 status that some Universities have that has not reduced tuition costs for anybody in state or otherwise. Additionally the state contributes very little these days to a state university, case in point the UC system.
As far your link that only concerns Pell Grants. Pell Grants are only available to "people of need", most middle class families don't qualify and the average for award if you do is just $3800.
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a bidding system for H1Bs would quickly resolve all these issues.
That will make company like MS/Google/FB/AMAZN, invincible. Startups are going to be starved. They will not have that much leverage to recruit desired talents.
The current system also puts small companies at a disadvantage. I work at a tiny company that pays more than the companies you listed and we have a lot of difficulty getting new H1Bs.
If we had an auction style system then at least small companies would have the opportunity to pay more and get access to foreign labor. In the current system, this is not even an option so companies like mine are disadvantaged with no recourse. Startups could always hire native workers or hire foreign workers offshore.
Re: Judge sends two to prison for 7 years for H-1B fraud
#90The H1B system favors inexperienced grads straight out of school over truly experienced workers bringing unique skills. Grads get 3 years on OPT while the company can navigate the labyrinth H1B application process. A company looking for a critical senior position for which they cannot have a large class of intakes is at a huge disadvantage. With the level of unemployment of recent grads still high, I think we need to seriously rethink how to structure the H1B program to actually be for uniquely skilled, highly paid workers who would otherwise be "irreplaceable".