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Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

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Post by SyneRyder » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

mariusmg wrote: post #60

SyneRyder wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been so long since I used Thunderbird that I'm not sure. I don't know if Thunderbird has things like the Focus Pane, where I can live-filter my Inbox down to just certain topics or certain senders. It feels a bit like OmniFocus or a GTD / Getting Things Done workflow: http://www.softwarecrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/postb... The killer app for me is the Postbox 4 feature to file a message in a folder just…

This can be done with addons in TB : - Expression search addon to filter/search the inbox. - Nostalgy addon for moving mail (and navigating the mailbox only with the keyboard). This addon is basically required for serious usage. Just press b and a popup shows up and allows you tochoose folder with autocomplete. It looks like this http://i.imgur.com/qYheafo.png

I took a look, and it does seem many of Postbox's features are renditions of Thunderbird addons, just with a slicker UI. Nostalgy has clearly been a big influence, and possibly Expression (though both are inspired by Gmail). I haven't found an addon for the focus sidebar, but I bet that's out there too.

My only issue is that during the years I used Thunderbird (pre Postbox) & exploring the addons, I never even knew about Nostalgy or Expression. For me, it's worth $20 for someone to design a pre-loaded Thunderbird with the best addons & make it part of the default UI & support docs. I would have easily taken $20+ of billable time just to discover & decide between the TB QuickMove and Quick Folder Move addons.

[But I'm really glad Thunderbird can do this, now I can recommend Nostalgy & TB to folks who don't want to pay for an email program.]

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

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Post by folksonomy » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 7:16 PM UTC

StevePerkins wrote: post #46

It feels like they're trying to serve two competing goals with this: 1) Be a faster, lighter, more customizable competitor to Chrome 2) Be a full "Internet suite" with browser and email client I'm sure how well you can accomplish #1 while pouring resources into #2. Moreover, I'm not sure how much of an audience there even is for #2. The minority who want a desktop email client are very vocal about it, but most of us…

Vivaldi seems very useful for a virtual machine environment. For example, a Windows machine with just Vivadli installed and nothing else would be a nice all-in-one surfing solution. (No need for a separate email client).

I typically do this now. Just dedicate a whole VM to a browser. One box with Firefox, one with M$ Edge, one with Brave, etc.

The more browsers there are the better. Competition reasons aside (it's difficult to actually compete with Edge, Chrome, and FF). But the more browsers I have to play with, the more I can play with them, and I never get bored. They're fun and novel! Brave being an example of a browser I will never take seriously:

https://www.brave.com/

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

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Post by mixedCase » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 8:01 PM UTC

scholia wrote: post #127

StevePerkins wrote: post #78

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> You do realize that Chrome is proprietary Chrome is a build of the (completely open-source) Chromium browser, with some additional media codecs and a different logo slapped on it.

Chrome is more proprietary than Vivaldi, and both based on the same open-source Chromium. The main difference is that you can read the Vivaldi source code (even though it's not open source) whereas you really have no way of knowing what Google puts into its proprietary Chrome browser. So, the techie audience that prefers open source should logically prefer Vivaldi to Chrome.

You can install and use Chromium instead of Chrome, which is how I'm replying to your comment.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

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Post by scholia » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 10:05 PM UTC

mixedCase wrote: post #133

scholia wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome is more proprietary than Vivaldi, and both based on the same open-source Chromium. The main difference is that you can read the Vivaldi source code (even though it's not open source) whereas you really have no way of knowing what Google puts into its proprietary Chrome browser. So, the techie audience that prefers open source should logically prefer Vivaldi to Chrome.

You can install and use Chromium instead of Chrome, which is how I'm replying to your comment.

Yes indeed. Chromium is open source, and Chrome isn't. Which is where I came in ;-)