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Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by jedberg »

jsnk wrote: post #29
jedberg wrote: post #6

Before anyone gets wound up about this, they posted an explanation on voat : https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/1083516/5406839 Assuming that gets deleted, basically it says "we just keep editing that post as we add more A/B tests so we can point people at that post if they have questions". This post on HN is really just trying to fan the flames I think, there's nothing nefarious going on here -- they've be…

"Assuming that gets deleted" Are you saying that HackerNews deletes links related to Voat? I am genuinely not sure what you mean by this.

No I'm assuming Voat will delete the one comment that contradicts their conspiracy theory (although honestly I think HN should delete this because there is something fishy going on with the voting here).

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by jedberg »

whistlerbrk wrote: post #25

Seriously? A post from Voat on HN? This is what you get when you search for voat on Google http://i.imgur.com/RnjbJTu.png

Yeah there's something fishy going on for this to shoot to the number one position so quickly. I hope dang looks into it if he can.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by qwertyasdfgh »

vessenes wrote: post #4
_RPM wrote: post #2

I'm really not surprised. I assume every website does this. On my Linux laptop, I run NoScript, and I've got Firefox configured to clear EVERYTHING when I close my browser. I don't run Flash or any other plugins. I haven't done much inspection, but the whole notion of "logging out" doesn't mean much to me. In the context of cookies, I just assume they clear the one that says "this guy is authenticated", to "not authe…

That really won't help you against modern browser fingerprinting technologies; it's fine to do of course, but generally it probably just makes your own experience worse without hampering tracking technology.

We ran some tests with a similar library and about 15% of the time we'd get hash collisions from completely different users. Sure, my setup might be totally unique, but other peoples vanilla installs are identical.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by jedberg »

polard2 wrote: post #22

Reddit reminds me of the Google, Don't be evil bullshit mantra with shenanigans like this almost every week. I understand the fucking "monetize, grow, and get bought out" mentality that every web business adopts, but it is pathetic when it comes to places founded by guys like Swartz.

> when it comes to places founded by guys like Swartz.

He had nothing to do with the founding of reddit, and also had no problem collecting the payout when it was sold.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by dimino »

whistlerbrk wrote: post #25

Seriously? A post from Voat on HN? This is what you get when you search for voat on Google http://i.imgur.com/RnjbJTu.png

It's strange, because while I don't typically agree with the decisions made to remove those distasteful subreddits, I find voat's obsession with them to be even more distasteful.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by areyoucrazy »

dimino wrote: post #28
areyoucrazy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great point. I'm getting really tired of escaping from these tracking predators. Chasing me down to serve me more corporate propaganda. Fuck 'em.

There has to be a term for this kind of pseudo-intellectual, anti-establishment contrarian paranoia that crops up every now and then...

There has to be a term for putting empty labels on something in attempt to try to make it false.

Calling something 'pseudo-intellectual' or 'paranoia' say absolutely nothing about the statement. It says that you are not able to form clear arguments and instead resort to negative labels.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by hackuser »

_RPM wrote: post #2

I'm really not surprised. I assume every website does this. On my Linux laptop, I run NoScript, and I've got Firefox configured to clear EVERYTHING when I close my browser. I don't run Flash or any other plugins. I haven't done much inspection, but the whole notion of "logging out" doesn't mean much to me. In the context of cookies, I just assume they clear the one that says "this guy is authenticated", to "not authe…

You may be interested in the Self-Destructing Cookies add-on. It associates each cookies with the sites that send them and deletes the cookie when you close the tab with the site (as I understand it).

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by [deleted] »

vessenes wrote: post #12
_RPM wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be more specific, I know there are things like Canvas Fingerprinting. I'm not sure I can appreciate your claims without you citing specific examples.

Simplest way to see if you're fingerprintable is to go to https://panopticlick.eff.org/ . I can't promise they are up to date, so if you get a 'Not fingerprintable' result, it may be incorrect. But, if the EFF can fingerprint you, almost any website in the world can, or their ad network can.

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Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Post by zacketysack3 »

whistlerbrk wrote: post #25

Seriously? A post from Voat on HN? This is what you get when you search for voat on Google http://i.imgur.com/RnjbJTu.png

While Voat used to have some users that focused on privacy and anonymity, today the bad parts of Voat far outweigh the good parts.

Voat is now a hub for intolerant hate-based communities that have been banned from Reddit. The site as a whole is anti-Reddit, anti-immigration, anti-LGBT rights, heavily racist, anti-feminist, and white-supremacist.

To add to this mess, Voat has also turned into a gathering point for Child Pornography users, with their primary image host, Slimgur being banned multiple times by their hosts for hosting CP. Voat users like to say that "the SJWs planted CP to get Slimgur removed! conspiracy!" but one look at the google search results for Voat should disprove that.

Finally, multiple users on Voat have been doxxed, with the site owner Atk0 deciding to not do anything about it.

Voat does not have a single redeeming feature at this point.

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