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Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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I'm really not surprised. I assume every website does this. On my Linux laptop, I run NoScript, and I've got Firefox configured to clear EVERYTHING when I close my browser. I don't run Flash or any other plugins. I haven't done much inspection, but the whole notion of "logging out" doesn't mean much to me. In the context of cookies, I just assume they clear the one that says "this guy is authenticated", to "not authenticated, but we know the last person that was here".

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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The update clearly says that they will be using some sort of tracking (likely cookies) for non-registered users and customizing content for them, as a trial.

The poster worried publicly that this would mean too many stories about Hillary on the front page -- I read that to mean he's a conspiracy nut, and doesn't want Hillary to be in office in the US, and thinks reddit could be used to push her there with this technology.

This seems like responsible disclosure, and so very far from the level of customization many content sites do (have you ever seen an ad follow you to reddit? I didn't think so), that I'm kind of surprised it's a big deal.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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post #2

I'm really not surprised. I assume every website does this. On my Linux laptop, I run NoScript, and I've got Firefox configured to clear EVERYTHING when I close my browser. I don't run Flash or any other plugins. I haven't done much inspection, but the whole notion of "logging out" doesn't mean much to me. In the context of cookies, I just assume they clear the one that says "this guy is authenticated", to "not authe…

That really won't help you against modern browser fingerprinting technologies; it's fine to do of course, but generally it probably just makes your own experience worse without hampering tracking technology.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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post #4
post #2

I'm really not surprised. I assume every website does this. On my Linux laptop, I run NoScript, and I've got Firefox configured to clear EVERYTHING when I close my browser. I don't run Flash or any other plugins. I haven't done much inspection, but the whole notion of "logging out" doesn't mean much to me. In the context of cookies, I just assume they clear the one that says "this guy is authenticated", to "not authe…

That really won't help you against modern browser fingerprinting technologies; it's fine to do of course, but generally it probably just makes your own experience worse without hampering tracking technology.

Be more specific, I know there are things like Canvas Fingerprinting. I'm not sure I can appreciate your claims without you citing specific examples.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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Before anyone gets wound up about this, they posted an explanation on voat: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/1083516/5406839

Assuming that gets deleted, basically it says "we just keep editing that post as we add more A/B tests so we can point people at that post if they have questions".

This post on HN is really just trying to fan the flames I think, there's nothing nefarious going on here -- they've been tracking how you move across the site for years, and if you don't like that, it's super simple to avoid.

You can block the cookie or just incognito mode.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That really won't help you against modern browser fingerprinting technologies; it's fine to do of course, but generally it probably just makes your own experience worse without hampering tracking technology.

Be more specific, I know there are things like Canvas Fingerprinting. I'm not sure I can appreciate your claims without you citing specific examples.

That's not the nicest way to ask for additional information, but see:

https://panopticlick.eff.org/about#browser-fingerprinting

> The site you are visiting may choose to analyze your browser using JavaScript, Flash and other methods (just like Panopticlick does). It may look for what types of fonts you have installed, the language you’ve set, the add-ons you’ve installed, and other factors. The site may then create a type of profile of you, tied to this pattern of characteristics associated with your browser, rather than tied to a specific tracking cookie.

Re: Reddit quietly updates 16 day old post: you are now tracked even if logged out

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be more specific, I know there are things like Canvas Fingerprinting. I'm not sure I can appreciate your claims without you citing specific examples.

That's not the nicest way to ask for additional information, but see: https://panopticlick.eff.org/about#browser-fingerprinting > The site you are visiting may choose to analyze your browser using JavaScript, Flash and other methods (just like Panopticlick does). It may look for what types of fonts you have installed, the language you’ve set, the add-ons you’ve installed, and other factors. The site may then create a…

Presumably this is the kind of tracking that the EU ePrivacy directive prohibits.
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